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re: Do you accept the notion of the Big Bang as the origin of our universe?

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Posted by DawgGONIT
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:32 pm to
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I guess if you define "religious people" so narrowly as to exclude brilliant scientists, physicists, philosophers, etc who understand spheres of inquiry--again a straw man tactic--then you have a point. A weak and meaningless one.
Just goes to show the power of brainwashing.
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:35 pm to
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Science people: we think we know how the universe formed. Our evidence? Scientific observation

Religious people: we know how the universe formed. Our evidence? A book.


I didn't realized anyone observed the Big Bang.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 10:35 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:35 pm to
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No, because what was there before? Nothing?



Possibly. Spacetime is all one thing. The "space" part of it began at the Big Bang so it’s reasonable to assume the "time" part did also.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:36 pm to
A milisecond after a small one in the Hadron Collider.
Posted by Rocco4
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:36 pm to
This shite confuses me
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:37 pm to
But if the two points are on one side and the other, how are they getting further apart if not moving into something that isn’t the universe?


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Posted by Rocco4
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:38 pm to
WHAT THE frick CAME BEFORE THE BIG BANG, HOW DID IT EVEN START? WHERE DID THE MATERIAL COME FROM?

sorry for the caps
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 10:39 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:38 pm to
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I didn't realized anyone observed the Big Bang.



We’ve got a picture of it

Cosmic microwave background



The cosmic microwave background (CMB) is electromagnetic radiation left over from an early stage of the universe in Big Bang cosmology. In older literature, the CMB is also variously known as cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR) or "relic radiation". The CMB is a faint cosmic background radiation filling all space that is an important source of data on the early universe because it is the oldest electromagnetic radiation in the universe, dating to the epoch of recombination. With a traditional optical telescope, the space between stars and galaxies (the background) is completely dark. However, a sufficiently sensitive radio telescope shows a faint background noise, or glow, almost isotropic, that is not associated with any star, galaxy, or other object. This glow is strongest in the microwave region of the radio spectrum. The accidental discovery of the CMB in 1964 by American radio astronomers Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson[1][2] was the culmination of work initiated in the 1940s, and earned the discoverers the 1978 Nobel Prize in Physics.
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Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:38 pm to
Pierre part store. They have everything.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:40 pm to
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There isn’t going to be a Big Crunch/Bounce though because our universe is not only expanding outwards, it’s accelerating.


Your own link seems to argue otherwise.

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since the nature of the dark energy that is postulated to drive the acceleration is unknown, it is still possible (though not observationally supported as of today) that it might eventually reverse its developmental path and cause a collapse


Posted by nola000
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:40 pm to
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If you mean God may have used a big bang to start the universe then yes.


Stay out of this. Intelligent people are talking.


We'll discuss the merits of your magic man when we're done.
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:40 pm to
Caps don’t bother me.

I think it’s all infinite.

Never began, never will end. Doesn’t have an outside edge.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:40 pm to
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But if the two points are on one side and the other, how are they getting further apart if not moving into something that isn’t the universe?



No one knows what’s outside the observable universe.
Posted by DawgGONIT
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:41 pm to
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Until they come up with a better explanation. You got another idea of how it happened?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:42 pm to
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Your own link seems to argue otherwise.



Not really. It says it’s possible but not observationally supported.
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:42 pm to
To me, the stuff on the outside IS STILL the universe.
Posted by nola000
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:42 pm to
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Science people: we think we know how the universe formed. Our evidence? Scientific observation

Religious people: we know how the universe formed. Our evidence? A book.



Posted by Langland
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:44 pm to
Uh huh.
Posted by nola000
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:44 pm to
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I didn't realized anyone observed the Big Bang.


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A milisecond after a small one in the Hadron Collider.



Posted by Langland
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:45 pm to
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We’ve got a picture of it

Uh huh.

Yeah, you should look into how that picture was put together.
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