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re: TaylorMade launches M3 and M4 drivers that have a “Twist Face”

Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:36 pm to
TaylorMade not having a very good launch day.

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TM Stops Sending Products for Testing to Mark Crossfield
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:44 pm to
Why don’t you just learn how to hit a fricking driver on the sweet spot.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:56 pm to
You first
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:57 pm to
I’m not the one talking about liking to hit the ball off of the toe fricker



Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 4:10 pm to
Who is?
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 4:14 pm to
You
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 4:40 pm to
I’ve been following the mark crossfield stuff. That video was excellent IMO.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 4:57 pm to
I read they stopped because he is sponsored by Titleist or some other competitor. I just cannot read or listen to anything by Mark. I don't know if it is his cartoon picture he uses or what but I just cannot do it.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 4:59 pm to
Yeah, think he picked up a sponsorship from titleist so Taylormade say “nah”.

I like him overall, think he gives good smart insight to golf and his on course club reviews are good. He does get a bit whiny from time to time though.
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 5:13 pm to
I love Mark Crossfield and his videos. His reviews are generally that it all comes down to strike versus equipment and the importance of custom fit. But, he comes all awfully salty in his video.
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 5:16 pm to
He is now sponsored by Titleist now and is playing their stuff. TaylorMade says they will not send out product to any reviewer sponsored by one manufacturer essentially questioning whether he can remain unbiased.
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 5:37 pm to
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I just cannot read or listen to anything by Mark. I don't know if it is his cartoon picture he uses or what but I just cannot do it.



When I first started watching him I couldn’t stand it, but he’s really grown on me. His course vlogs are usually pretty funny and he has a ton of golf knowledge.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:21 pm to
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He is now sponsored by Titleist now and is playing their stuff. TaylorMade says they will not send out product to any reviewer sponsored by one manufacturer essentially questioning whether he can remain unbiased.


Makes sense. Titleist can buy the clubs he needs to test.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13417 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 2:29 pm to
Just watched that Rick Shiels video. Compared to other drivers he’s hit, the numbers and dispersion didn’t look great for him with the M3 and M4. Also they don’t sound very good, IMO.
Posted by TaderSalad
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 4:56 pm to
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Just watched that Rick Shiels video. Compared to other drivers he’s hit, the numbers and dispersion didn’t look great for him with the M3 and M4. Also they don’t sound very good, IMO.


He was all over the place with the drives and they didnt seem long by any means

I am gonna say this is a bust. We are talking about 14 yards of distance left to right. This isnt a fix all kinda club. If you slice, you'll still slice it. I think this is for those who it hit it straight like the pros who lose 2-5 yards right or left on mishits. Not 95% of golf population
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85309 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:22 am to
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My question is how does this affect control? Some people "want" to hit a draw or fade and know that they can get more of one or the other by hitting it closer to the toe or heel.

As a high spin driver, I try to keep my ball strikes closer to the toe because anything on the heel would be a disaster. It works well enough for me. Do I change my swing/approach based on the equipment?


Rick Shiels addresses these exact concerns
Posted by Coomdaddy
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Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:49 am to
Rick was not a fan. He tried to be as nice about it as he could be. His new review format is excellent.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85309 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:54 am to
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His new review format is excellent.
The content he's putting out there is great. Really big contrast compared to Crossfield who's become so jaded with reviews that he doesn't really do them anymore and every single one has the same preachy message: "the numbers I show you mean nothing because dynamic loft this and strike location that."
Posted by TaderSalad
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:27 am to
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Rick was not a fan. He tried to be as nice about it as he could be. His new review format is excellent.




He was all over the place in his initial video. I walked away thinking that it was either mental or the arrow flat out sucks. I think we'll see alot of M3 and M4's on tour without the twisty face thingy
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:42 pm to
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the numbers I show you mean nothing because dynamic loft this and strike location that."



I enjoy mark’s driver reviews because it’s really hilarious how all the drivers promise distance and he hits almost all of them 262-263. Mark’s iron reviews don’t do much for me though.
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