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re: Let’s get this clear once and for all: the internet is NOT a utility

Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:13 pm to
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Yeah me too. Really pointless too. I simply don't care about e-cred.

I'll give you this.

I can tell just by patterns that probably 70% of this board is the same as it was fricking 3 years ago(in terms of regulars).

But I'll be fricked if 70% of them don't have different handles!



That's just dumb. I like being able to see a handle and think, "I remember this dude". No sense rediscovering the SAME shite about people.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89765 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:14 pm to
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I once spent 7 pages posting one-word "melt" replies to her. That was fun.


I know you will receive this in the spirit in which it is intended, but you're a dick, DB.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73414 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:15 pm to
GT23 once said that I was the biggest a-hole on the site.

We've been friends since...
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:15 pm to
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I still think you're BamaAtl.



You give this place far too much credit. These Trumpkin alters have got you all paranoid.

I already have enough fun having every conversation devolve into transparent Freudian Projections by triggered Trumpflakes, no need to double that shite with two accounts.





Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89765 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:15 pm to
So, you're actually 2/3 of the Team America "trinity".
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:16 pm to
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They both discuss the same topics, with the same points, and the same responses to anything that refutes those points.


They both use the techinique that goes something like this.

Spam you with HUGE posts

Demand answers to every element

Respond to only one element(especially if it's the one you left out)

Slightly change the discussion at every opportunity by shifting a key element
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73414 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:17 pm to
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You give this place far too much credit.


I assure you that this has and will never be correct.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24643 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:17 pm to
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Now that I think about it, I think I recall KCT from discussions I had with him when I was still anti-Trump.



Well hes here. It looks like he got permabanned from a melt about obama being black and typed in erwrerwrerwrwerwrrewrerww a bunch as his name.
Posted by Freder
Member since Aug 2014
809 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:17 pm to
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Plenty of homes do not have the internet ... like my parents, for example. They do just fine without it.


And survivalists do just fine without electricity. Yet, it’s still a utility. Why?
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:17 pm to
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No economist alive believes "perfectly competitive markets" are required to have a functioning market.



Not once was that implied, if you are going to have to argue straw men to keep up the charade, you have already lost the plot.

It is telling in all these responses you have yet to offer a single coherent retort to any underlying point without resorting to mischaracterization. And instead posted more about me being some person's alter because apparently other people that post detailed responses similarly trigger you.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73414 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:17 pm to
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Team America "trinity".


Tell me more about this. I've been away.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89765 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:20 pm to
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Yet, it’s still a utility. Why?


Building code. If the building codes start requiring internet access, then I'll consider it. Until then, it's telecommunications, which is deregulated and not required for a building to be habitable, and everyone viscerally knows this, even though ideology might prevent them from saying it.

I'm detaching this from the NN versus non-NN - I'm against it, because I'm pro-freedom and pro-competition. I don't pretend deregulation is utopia, but at the same time, I don't need a nanny state to protect me from a non-essential good or service. Same position I had on health insurance.

Is health insurance a utility? The left will say yes and the right will say no. Are "groceries" a utility? The left will say yes, the right will say no. And so on, and so on...
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 1:24 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48924 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:21 pm to
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Not once was that implied, if you are going to have to argue straw men to keep up the charade, you have already lost the plot.


no...you just said economists say it has to be really really close to it. Why bring up perfectly competitive markets at all? Something you found in your spring textbooks?
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:21 pm to
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Not once was that implied,


Now you're flailing.

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It is telling in all these responses you have yet to offer a single coherent retort to any underlying point without resorting to mischaracterization.
This is just comical given your posts in this thread.

You wanted to slip in "perfectly competitive" and get me to respond as if I didn't notice.

Then, when I noticed, you had to flail.

quote:

And instead posted more about me being some person's alter because apparently other people that post detailed responses similarly trigger you.
I don't give a frick if you're an alter.

I respond to people who post in the thread. Sorry buttercup.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:23 pm to
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no...you just said it economists say it has to be really really close to it. Why bring up perfectly competitive markets at all? Something you found in your spring textbooks?

He thought he was being slick.

He wanted me to cite competition so he could go, "what the frick, do you not know what the economic term perfectly competitive means!!!"

Alas. Whoops. Rob knew!!
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89765 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:23 pm to
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Tell me more about this. I've been away.


You've seen the film, right?

Anyway, someone posted in another thread the past week or so and reminded me:

Three types of people - DisplacedBuckeye is at least 2 of those types... SUPER NSFW LANGUAGE
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:25 pm to
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no...you just said it economists say it has to be really really close to it. Why bring up perfectly competitive markets at all? Something you found in your spring textbooks?



Framework for discussion. In an ideal market, to reach perfect competition you want the underlying market to function as close to that as possible. In reality it rarely does, but the further you move out from satisfying those principles, the more prone to market failure and critical breakdowns it becomes.

I would love you to explain to me how the absence of those underlying traits can lead to a highly functioning and competitive marketplace?

And in addition, why that is not what we see in the ISP space?
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 1:27 pm
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:29 pm to
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This is just comical given your posts in this thread.

You wanted to slip in "perfectly competitive" and get me to respond as if I didn't notice.

Then, when I noticed, you had to flail.


Slip in? Quit being a child. If you can't comprehend what was written, be a big boy and ask. But this attempt to mischaracterize what was written as a ploy to cover up your inability to address what was actually said is pathetic.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73414 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:31 pm to


I actually haven't. That gif definitely didn't clear anything up.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 1:32 pm to
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Slip in? Quit being a child. If you can't comprehend what was written, be a big boy and ask.


It was literally my first point when I responded to your game.

Yeah. I didn't comprehend it.

quote:

But this attempt to mischaracterize what was written as a ploy to cover up your inability to address what was actually said is pathetic.

You got caught.

Then flailed.

Suck it up. Do better next time.
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