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re: It's glorious watching reddit, libs, and cucks melt over NN repeal
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:47 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:47 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:The difference here is infrastructure, and eminent domain.
That’s because monopolies can only be created by governments because only government can prevent competition. If in a free market a company gains a huge market share it is because they offer better and or cheaper products which people willingly buy. Microsoft for example in the 90s was the boogie man because they had 90% market share in OS. Did that result in computers being something only the rich could afford? It MS charging more for Windows? Hardly and now just 20 years later it doesn’t even matter because substitutes are available namely mobile devices using Android and iOS.
With cable ISPs they are a monopoly because governments created and protected them. Neutrality would have prevented AOL from existing and that brought the net to the masses.
My previous post was mostly in jest, but there's way more to it than better product. There is no free market here.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 3:48 pm
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:47 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
I like how so much of the reasoning people give for being anti-NN has more to do with Obama, melts, and lib tearz than any substantive benefits of repealing NN.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:48 pm to CorporateTiger
Exactly.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:54 pm to CorporateTiger
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I like how so much of the reasoning people give for being anti-NN has more to do with Obama, melts, and lib tearz than any substantive benefits of repealing NN.
less government involvement and a win for capitalism are substantive benefits
even if the NN repeal goes bad, it may make people do stuff in the real world that don't involve the internet. the horror
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:54 pm to CorporateTiger
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like how so much of the reasoning people give for being anti-NN has more to do with Obama, melts, and lib tearz
I agree That is the sad state of our political discourse.
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any substantive benefits of repealing NN.
I favor markets not using 1930s regs s on 21st century tech. I think this fear that these ISPs will just arbitrarily block sites is fear mongering. There is no good business reasons to piss Off customers. And if they did start blocking sites we can always revisit NN in the future it’s not like what’s passed now is permanent and can never be changed and maybe we could tailor regs rather than 1 size fits all
I see no problem with fast lanes. How is it substantively different from day pay channels when cable was introduced? Also if certain sites like Netflix use more bandwidth then treating all traffic as neutral is benefiting content providers ie big corporations.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
The entire point of the monopoly is to prevent substitute products and competitors from entering the market.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:54 pm to MizzouBS
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So making it harder to start up a internet company is capitalism?
this statement is so stupid it hurts.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:55 pm to Yak
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government monopolies (ACA, for example)
ACA isnt a government monopoly.
Do you just copy words from reddit? seriously, how stupid are you?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:57 pm to CorporateTiger
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The entire point of the monopoly is to prevent substitute products and competitors from entering the market.
Right and my contention is that can only happen with governments. Private companies on their own do not have the power to stop competition.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:59 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I think this fear that these ISPs will just arbitrarily block sites is fear mongering. There is no good business reasons to piss Off customers. And if they did start blocking sites we can always revisit NN in the future it’s not like what’s passed now is permanent and can never be changed and maybe we could tailor regs rather than 1 size fits all
They won't block sites altogether, but they'll 100% throttle speeds to anything outside of their packages, which is just as effective as blocking them outright.
Who is going to spend any time on a website that takes 30 seconds to load a page?
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:59 pm to H-Town Tiger
So you do not believe that any private entity (or a group thereof via cartel), have ever achieved enough business power so as to push new competitors out of the market effectively at their will?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:59 pm to hawgfaninc
It's truly a sight to behold. It's like they are trying to see who can fearmonger the most.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:01 pm to CptBengal
quote:I wrote that specifically to solicit a response from you
ACA isnt a government monopoly.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:02 pm to CptBengal
Making the internet like cable TV is not in the best interest of consumers.
This will only increase the amount we pay for internet service. I can remember when I paid $35 a month for cable with the same thing I have now that I pay $152 a month for(not including sec network or HBO).
This will only increase the amount we pay for internet service. I can remember when I paid $35 a month for cable with the same thing I have now that I pay $152 a month for(not including sec network or HBO).
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:05 pm to CptBengal
quote:Also, where the frick would this even be in reddit? If I was to say that on reddit, I'd be downvoted to oblivion
Do you just copy words from reddit? seriously, how stupid are you?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:10 pm to slackster
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They won't block sites altogether, but they'll 100% throttle speeds to anything outside of their packages, which is just as effective as blocking them outright
Really 100% me thinks not. There is no business reason to do that
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
Where are you gonna go? To one of the other 3 internet companies that also throttle?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:13 pm to hawgfaninc
Apparently aclu claims repealing NN is racist. I'm assuming that they are implying that Isps will charge minorities more money than they charge white people.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:14 pm to hawgfaninc
It's not a free market if I only have one choice for high speed internet in a city with over 1 million people. It's a fricking monopoly and now Comcast is ready to bend us all over with no lube. They want all of that action Netflix and Amazon have been getting.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 4:22 pm to MizzouBS
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So making it harder to start up a internet company...
What are you basing this claim on?
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