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re: Moore was a truly terrible candidate.

Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:50 am to
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22064 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:50 am to
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Maybe the bigger story is how crazy Republican voters in Alabama have gotten that would back the jackass Republican candidate and reject the more viable Republican candidate.


Luther and Moe took each other out. Moore stayed out of the line of fire and walked past them to the nomination while they were still flinging shite at each other.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:52 am to
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his is the problem with the Primary system. It tends allow people who are way outside the political norms the chance to be the candidate for their party (See Presidential election 2016) and you end up with a lesser of two evils choice in the general election.


Nothing about Trump is the lesser of two evils. He is pure evil, and by far the worst of the two candidates.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53785 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:59 am to
So what you're saying is there all bad candidates
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14517 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:02 am to
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I didn't know this until last night but Roy Moore's maximum previous victory margin in state wide election was 4% when there was no national interest or sexual accusations. It was only 4% when "normal" Republican win by 28%. Even Trump won by 28% in Alabama.

You're right. Moore was a terrible candidate.

The blame goes to McConnell for not having the vision or leadership abilities to initially get behind Mo Brooks.


This is the face saving move, I guess.


You realize how incredibly dumb it is to suggest that the Senate President support anybody other than the SITTING Senator? But it can't be the fault of ignorant primary voters who supported a whackadoo. It has to be THE ESTABLISHMENT!!! It's all their fault! Drain the swamp!

Primary voters screwed up. OP has the character to admit it. Let's learn the right lesson in this and move on*.
We have a tax package to pass and 2018 elections to deal with.




*that lesson is don't nominate whackadoo candidates.



Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5900 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:07 am to
This same logic can be used on Trump getting elected president. The Democrats run anyone besides Hillary and they win. This board believes Trump is some sort of revolution he isn't he won by 77k votes just like Jones why 20k . Jones winning isn't a signal that Alabama is turning blue it's signal not to run shitty people.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:11 am to
How about those three debates?
Did i miss them on c-span?

I kept thinking of o brother where art thou. Dude was a caricature.
David duke 2.
Barely lost.
If the crackers had bothered to vote he'd be crowing on fox news right now.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 10:14 am
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26367 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:19 am to
Look at what I posted on 9/26/17. This was a long, long time before the devastating sexual allegations surfaced:

Sheesh. The voters of Alabama just coughed up a serious hairball by their selection of Roy Moore. This is an opportunity for the Democrat Doug Jones to steal a Senate seat that once seemed a lock for the Republicans. Moore is in short, a religious nut who is WAY too extreme to grace the halls of ...
of the Senate.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 10:24 am
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18108 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:24 am to
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The Democrats run anyone besides Hillary and they win.


While that may be true, that’s 20/20 hindsight, and a bit revisionist. Hillary was projected to win in a landslide. The dimocratix thought Hillary was bulletproof, and were delighted with her as their candidate, until she lost.

Even the staunchest of Moore supporters recognized he had tons of baggage.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:33 am to
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Luther and Moe took each other out.


The revisionist history on the primary is quite baffling. Brooks allowed the race devolve into which one between him and Strange could glom themselves to Trump more. They both knew they couldn't peel away enough Moore supporters, so they were going after the same pool of voters. Of course it was going to get nasty.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:37 am to
The Trump/Bannon wing of the GOP lost a Senate in the Deep South. That’s not easy to do. That means to me that the GOP establishment is winning the (not so civil) war within the party, and the Democrats are grinning.

Some of you wanted to burn the Republican party down. Well, smell the smoke.
Posted by Quarterite
The Lower Quarter
Member since Oct 2016
959 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:40 am to
Plus, he set himself up for all those "and the horse you rode in on" lines.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:45 am to
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Alabama GOP voters just screwed the entire MAGA movement. I hope you are proud of yourselves.


Incorrect.

The GOP just screwed MAGA. The GOP establishment WANTED to lose this election so they pushed a shitty candidate like Roy Moore on Alabama voters.

The GOP wants an excuse not to pass any of the legislation Trump wants, they hate him as much as the Dems do.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26367 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:47 am to
Luther Strange could have carried Alabama by 28 points. Moore was simply a historically bad candidate whose own words and actions rendered him unelectable, notwithstanding the unsavory sexual allegations.

Moore lost BIG in Tuscaloosa, Auburn/ Opelika, Huntsville, Mobile, Dothan, Phenix City, etc. These were all cities that Trump carried, not to mention McCain and Romney before him.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28654 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 11:32 am to
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Woman accuses Republican = fake Woman accuses Dem =ride that sick f*ck out on a rail.

And why is it always:
Woman accuses Republican based on 30-40 year old unprovable claims.
Woman accuses Dem with relatively recent and/or evidence proving claims.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22064 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:11 pm to
Yes, they took each other out by trying to be more Trump, more conservative, etc. and then there was the mud flinging. They basically split their voters and Moore with his evangelical base walked right by them.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14517 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

The GOP establishment WANTED to lose this election so they pushed a shitty candidate like Roy Moore on Alabama voters.



Posted by CaptChandler
Polis
Member since Sep 2016
2427 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:26 pm to
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Hillary is pure evil, and by far the worst of the two candidates


Fixed for accuracy.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Woman accuses Republican = fake
Woman accuses Dem =ride that sick f*ck out on a rail.



No way you believe this.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:32 pm to
because it's Alabama, I didn't think it would matter, but him losing fits well in my view of what really matters in every election

relatability.

campaigning from a church pulpit, cowboy hat, vest, riding his horse to the polls. the cringe inducing lines about everything...on top of that the whole riding his horse to the polls just seemed so stupid and fake like he thought that appealed to people

honestly, if he just dressed like a real person he probably would've eeked it out despite everything, but he looks like a caricature of people's negative perceptions of the south
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26367 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

a caricature of people's negative perceptions of the south

I know that's right. Maybe now he'll put on his cowboy hat, get on that horse, twirl his six-shooter on his finger and ride right out of the state, for good.
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