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re: Tim Tebow: Wisconsin shouldn't be a playoff team no matter what happens on Saturday

Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:22 am to
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:22 am to
Why can lower divisions play up to 16 games but FBS can’t?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:23 am to
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The best team isn’t necessarily the champion.



The champion should be determined from the best teams.

ETA: Tangentially, that's why I favor seeding the NBA playoffs 1-16.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 10:24 am
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:24 am to
So what’s the “best team”?
Teams with most wins/fewest losses
Teams that won a championship
Teams that have most Pro prospects
Best coached


This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 10:27 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:27 am to
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what’s the “best team”?


Teams with the strongest resumes.

You can't just say they have to be conference champs when a conference champ (at best only 1) gets left out under this system.

It's a bigger field than 2, but still highly subjective. Which is why it needs to be an 8 team playoff. This is the hair splitting I deplore.

At least make a playoff berth a given for conference champs. Then we're left debating the merits of teams that are strong but haven't met that minimum requirement.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 10:29 am
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:28 am to
Ok so you want to use fictional things to determine these things

SOS and rankings are biased. But you know this
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:30 am to
It needs to be 24 or 12 teams if we’re looking for best team

If it’s a National Champion it needs to be 6 or 4

I just think they need to come out give a definition every year of what they want
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:30 am to
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you want to use fictional things to determine these things


Literally just said it's subjective. It always will be unless it expands.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:31 am to
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needs to be 24 or 12 teams if we’re looking for best team

If it’s a National Champion it needs to be 6 or 4


Nah. 8 is the sweet spot. You know I am correct here.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 10:32 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:32 am to
Gotta go cycle. We'll debate more later
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:33 am to
No it’s not. I think it should be 24 and make it an official Championship
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:35 am to
Using the Current NCAA Bylaws for an Official NCAA Championship and the official CFP rankings released

Auto Qualifiers
Central Florida
Clemson
Oklahoma
Wisconsin
Florida Atlantic
Toledo
Fresno St
Southern California
Auburn
Troy


LSU vs Michigan St, winner plays 1. Clemson
Troy vs Penn St, winner plays 8. Ohio St
Memphis vs Washington, winner plays 4. Wisconsin
Fresno St vs Stanford, winner plays 5. Alabama
Washington St vs Notre Dame, winner plays 2. Auburn
Florida Atlantic vs Southern Cal, winner plays 7. Miami
Oklahoma St vs Central Florida, winner plays 3. Oklahoma
Toledo vs TCU, winner plays 6. Georgia

Of course these matchups will change after today’s games.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 10:37 am
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:35 am to
But Peyton Manning gets credit for two super bowl wind correct? He was statistically the worst QB in the league that year, yet when anyone wants to make a GOAT argument for him they will always say he won two super bowls. Why the hypocrisy? Tim Tebow was the QB of that Denver team abd they won, period. Just disputing the bullshite claim that Tebows career ended after Meyer because it didnt
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:36 am to
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I think it should be 24 and make it an official Championship
You're getting pretty close to your fav coach who says it should be 64 teams.

I do like most of your 12-team playoff idea (I'd replace the auto spot for an indy with a second at-large). I think that's the best way to remove as much human bias as possible.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:38 am to
Well he’s being stupid with his numbers for effect . But I’m saying it needs to be a percentage like the bylaws like he’s trying to.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:39 am to
That’s fair about Indy. But if the Indy pool grew to what it was in 80’s then I think you give them an auto spot.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:40 am to
I agree with him. If they win they deserve a shot though.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:41 am to
quote:

HarbaughsCameraMan


Even if you don’t think he’s a top 5 player of all time, saying he’s one of the worst is shows how little you know about CFB. Seriously whose alter are you?
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:41 am to
Yeah, I could agree if the pool grew. But there aren't many now and I can imagine a scenario that doesn't seem too off-the-wall where the best one has a 7-5 record or something.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 10:42 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 10:54 am to
Tim Tebow just embodied everything that is wrong with the SEC homer/Crimson colored glasses/eye test bullshite argument.

It's not about what you fricking THINK would happen; it's about what ACTUALLY happens.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:24 am to
quote:

It needs to be 24 or 12 teams if we’re looking for best team If it’s a National Champion it needs to be 6 or 4 I just think they need to come out give a definition every year of what they want


Man I'd argue the complete opposite. The larger the field the more it'd be about finding a "national champion"

The smaller the field the more likely the actual best team over the course of the entire year wins.
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