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China calling the shots in Zimbabwe
Posted on 11/21/17 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 2:58 pm
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The general behind Zimbabwe’s coup may have sought Chinese approval days before the army launched its takeover of Robert Mugabe’s government, it emerged on Wednesday.
Mr Mugabe remained under house arrest, still president of Zimbabwe if in name alone, a prisoner of once slavishly loyal generals who now hold the country’s fate in their hands.
As the former British colony faced a deeply uncertain future under military tutelage, a trip to Beijing by Gen Constantine Chiwenga, the head of the armed forces, last week has reignited concerns about rising Chinese influence in Africa.
The general held high-level meetings with officials from the Defence Ministry, and visited a school to observe a Shaolin Kung Fu class.
Although the Chinese foreign ministry insisted Gen Chiwenga’s visit was a “routine visit”, analysts have suggested that Beijing may have given the rebellious army chief its tacit blessing in advance.
Mr Mnangagwa and his allies have made conscious efforts to court Beijing as both an investor and a military partner.
China, which has displaced Western rivals to become Africa’s largest trading partner and is a major investor in Zimbabwe, notably declined to call for Mr Mugabe’s restoration yesterday, despite his long ties to Beijing dating back to the Cold War.
Last year, China pledged to invest $4bn in Zimbabwe for investment, loans and aid over the next three years.
Responding to the coup, the Chinese foreign ministry merely stated that Beijing was “paying close attention to developments”, prompting suggestions that China had agreed to sacrifice “Comrade Mugabe” in the interests of an orderly succession.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:00 pm to Jim Rockford
China is in the process of taking over the entire continent of Africa. It's going to be old school 19th century colonialism.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:00 pm to Jim Rockford
So ultimately they swapped one colonial power calling the shots (UK) for another (China).
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:01 pm to upgrayedd
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China is in the process of taking over the entire continent of Africa. It's going to be old school 19th century colonialism.
China needs to look to the US and see that that will not end favorably.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:02 pm to Jim Rockford
Breaking news: Chinese financial backing of new Zimbabwe government confirmed.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:04 pm to upgrayedd
Difference being that China won't need to send any troops over. All they have to do is send money and the local governments will take care of the rest.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:04 pm to Jim Rockford
Can't be. Stevie Wonder said peace has come to Zimbabwe.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:05 pm to AggieDub14
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Difference being that China won't need to send any troops over. All they have to do is send money and the local governments will take care of the rest.
That's completely false. They have troops there now.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:06 pm to Jim Rockford
Someone is going to fill the power vacuum left by US disengagement.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:08 pm to AggieDub14
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Breaking news: Chinese financial backing of new Zimbabwe government confirmed.
WOW! Double great financial/foreign policy news today! We will stop throwing cash down the World’s number one financial hole Haiti, and China will start dumping cash down the world’s second deepest hole, Zimbabwe!
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:09 pm to AggieDub14
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All they have to do is send money and the local governments will take care of the rest.
Many locals hate the Chinese because they're pretty brutal when it comes to dealing with people who defy them.
I had a client that had a mine in the Congo that they sold to a Chinese company. During the transition, the locals were already complaining about how the Chinese treat the local labor. All the infrastructure they build "for the locals" is complete dogshit too.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:12 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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China can have that dump
While I agree that the tribalism of African nations is a huge PITA to deal with, they're going to create some significant conflicts the local nations will look to the West to help solve. It'll be interesting to see how the UN responds. The corruption through exploitation of natural resources will be a powder keg.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:14 pm to Jim Rockford
Sounds like Zimbabwe may be getting a whole lot of freedom soon...
Actually screw em... They have nothing of value to add to the global economy.. Maybe they can start making all our electronics over there?
Actually screw em... They have nothing of value to add to the global economy.. Maybe they can start making all our electronics over there?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 4:14 pm to upgrayedd
quote:I guess so, they lock blacks up for shoplifting...
Many locals hate the Chinese because they're pretty brutal when it comes to dealing with people who defy them.
We need to preserve African independence
Posted on 11/21/17 at 4:26 pm to Jim Rockford
I'm speculating but my guess is a land grab. Zimbabwe has more unattended/poorly tended cultivated land than any country in the world. It's basically an ag hedge.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 5:25 pm to Jim Rockford
Hope y’all enjoy having the Yuan as the leading currency.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 5:35 pm to Jim Rockford
China doesn’t have liberals and Africa gonna Africa so nobody will give a shite
Posted on 11/21/17 at 5:38 pm to JLivermore
Did the Chinese just let the yuan sink in value?
They like a weak currency.
They like a weak currency.
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