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Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:55 pm to Haughton99
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:55 pm to Haughton99
quote:i don't know. i'm not Christian, but i'm pretty sure prayer is an extremely important part of Christianity.
Isn't confession and repentance and extremely important part of Christianity
you going somewhere with this?
quote:how the frick should i know. why do you think i'm a Christian?
If it's not important and doesn't do anyone any good then why would God think it's important?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:55 pm to DelU249
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Fox Mulder
Congrats
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:56 pm to Haughton99
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This would be true if all damage was physical.
If your intent is to state that emotional and psychological harm can be healed by apologies, then you really are a nitwit.
Apologies are not for the victim, they are for the perpetrator to feel better. Even in Catholicism this is true. You don't confess to a priest because you are trying to make the victims of your actions feel better. You do it for some personal gain like cleansing your "soul".
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:57 pm to DelU249
Didn't help Charlie Rose. He gone from CBS and PBS.
Been so many liberals waging war on women, I didn't even notice Jeffrey Tambor quit his Amazon show as a preemptive strike to avoid being fired.
Been so many liberals waging war on women, I didn't even notice Jeffrey Tambor quit his Amazon show as a preemptive strike to avoid being fired.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:57 pm to Erin Go Bragh
quote:prayers are worthless because they don't do anything about the problem...i'm still waiting to hear how an apology does...it clearly does because that's why franken shouldn't resign as opposed to others who should.
There were so many ways available to you to respond to the OP that didn't require you being a prick.
That said, a forced apology for the sake of optics is usually a meaningless gesture.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:58 pm to DelU249
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it's ok, he apologized and manned up. problem solved.
It's kinda like Hillary saying "I take responsibility for losing the election" and then presents a laundry list of people whose fault it was for her losing.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:58 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Where we know here you stand - it sure ain't with God but yet you know so much about Him. It's a perplexing conundrum you have there.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, and are probably completely clueless as to what a relationship with God involves, much less judge someone else as to whether they stand with him or not
Posted on 11/21/17 at 12:58 pm to Y.A. Tittle
why thank you...but i don't have a child until we leave the hospital without my wife giving the go ahead to scramble little fox mulder's brains...according to ethan
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:03 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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FWIW I don’t think Franken did anything that warrants an apology
Again, you are speaking from a position of moral indifference. Tell you what, let Al Franken take a picture with your mother or wife or daughter, cupping their breasts while they struggle to move his hands and object.
You think he deserves to apologize to someone now? Go and stutter somewhere
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:03 pm to DelU249
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prayers are worthless because they don't do anything about the problem
Respectfully, that’s simply your opinion.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:06 pm to DelU249
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why thank you...but i don't have a child until we leave the hospital without my wife giving the go ahead to scramble little fox mulder's brains...according to ethan
What on earth are you talking about now
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:10 pm to olddawg26
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:13 pm to DCtiger1
that's not what i'm saying. what i'm saying is condolences or sympathy via the expression of "i am praying for you" is received by liberals with "prayers don't bring back the dead or solve the problem. go frick yourself"
while "i'm sorry" (and a shitty one at that) for sexual harassment is the difference between senator franken and ex senator franken...even though by the same standard, it does not undo the wrong committed nor does it prevent another wrong from being committed. it does...nothing.
i'm applying someone else's standard of logic to point out their hypocrisy. i'm not saying apologies have no value (like ethan is stupid enough to take away) nor am i saying your prayers are worthless...that's the standard from which i'm asking a question about the apology tour. a question which is sure to trigger anyone who hates being confronted with the realization that they're entirely full of shite (not you)
while "i'm sorry" (and a shitty one at that) for sexual harassment is the difference between senator franken and ex senator franken...even though by the same standard, it does not undo the wrong committed nor does it prevent another wrong from being committed. it does...nothing.
i'm applying someone else's standard of logic to point out their hypocrisy. i'm not saying apologies have no value (like ethan is stupid enough to take away) nor am i saying your prayers are worthless...that's the standard from which i'm asking a question about the apology tour. a question which is sure to trigger anyone who hates being confronted with the realization that they're entirely full of shite (not you)
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:20 pm to DelU249
You’re right, apologies in this sense often mean little to the victim. There must be actions to reinforce the verbal apology. To me, an apology should be looked at simply as an admittal of guilt. That’s the first step. Has Weinstein apologized at all yet? Hell Cosby still denies everything.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:23 pm to EthanL
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You are stupid and appear to have no moral compass. Don’t have children and god forbid you are ever put in a position of authority. You are a sad person if you think gestures like apologies, even if all they do is symbolize something and are token, are unwarranted anymore. Again, don’t get into the business of raising any children
Maybe you're too stupid to understand the OP. We're not talking about 6-year-olds stealing a piece of bubble gum in the check out isle at the county store.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:23 pm to Haughton99
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This would be true if all damage was physical
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:25 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Well we know where you stand - it sure ain't with God but yet you know so much about Him. It's a perplexing conundrum you have there.
If you want to argue against something, it's best to understand what you're arguing against.
Many atheists are pretty knowledgeable in religion.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:27 pm to i am dan
quote:and we're operating on a pre established logical foundation to which many liberals subscribe
Maybe you're too stupid to understand the OP. We're not talking about 6-year-olds stealing a piece of bubble gum in the check out isle at the county store.
no need to call him stupid though. i'm enjoying watching him. he has no rebuttal, a straw man, and nothing but insults. he's triggered.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:28 pm to DelU249
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it's ok, he apologized and manned up. problem solved.
34 (I think) SNL workers signed a letter defending him. I was honestly shocked to see this. Amazing how one sided people are when it comes to issues like this involving politicians. Just pathetic.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:29 pm to DCtiger1
quote:they should, but they're not
apology should be looked at simply as an admittal of guilt.
in fact many people deny the accusations but apologize for whatever may have caused their misinterpretation...then there's the issue of whether an apology is an apology.
"i regret putting such a high number on it" was Hillary Clinton's apology for her deplorables comment...it was reported as an apology, but that's not an apology.
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