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re: Beating Bama - why it doesn’t matter

Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:20 am to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25986 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:20 am to
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Beating Bama - why it doesn’t matter



I guess it doesn't, just give us a participation trophy.

This is something a loser says. It doesn't matter if you're a loser.
No one likes finishing in second place, and if you do, that's why you'll never finish in first.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:23 am to
I agree that had we won, it would have had zero effect on Bama making the playoff. And no matter what happened, we would likely be left out.

That said, winning would have put us in 1st place in the SEC-W with a very real shot at the SECCG and the SEC Championship.

THAT STILL MATTERS!!!! A lot. The playoffs ore controlled by voters with an agenda. No team has real control over their playoff spot, but they do control their ability to a Conference Title.

That should be goal #1 every year. Then worry about winning the playoff beauty contest
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:28 am to
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A SEC championship is the bare minimum. Every year.


That's a bit unrealistic
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7645 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:50 am to
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quote:
A SEC championship is the bare minimum. Every year.


That's a bit unrealistic



as a goal no it isn't. what's more unrealistic is LSU losing to bama and still getting a playoff spot
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111241 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:05 pm to
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Point being LSU should not waste one extra ounce of time worrying about beating Alabama in the regular season, apologizing, etc. The focus should be going undefeated outside of the Bama game and making the strongest case for playoffs or top tier bowl game, much like Bama in 2011/2012.

So just play our 3rd/4th stringers against Bama?

Great plan!!!
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Beating Bama in the regular season doesn’t matter. Even if we pulled the upset Saturday night how far does Bama drop in the polls?


Why the frick should we care what us beating them does to them? It's about what it does for us.

quote:

How far does LSU move up


Not a great deal but we made our bed by losing to Troy.

Your entire premise is ridiculous.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111241 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:12 pm to
I don't think people really understand the gist of "lower expectations"

If you expect LSU to beat Bama and/or compete for a title this season, that's on you, and it also makes no sense.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111241 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:13 pm to
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Why can’t LSU make that same argument? Why does it only apply to Bama??!

Bama lost 9-6.

IF we do what you've implied, we'd lose by a heck of a lot more and have no shot at a playoff.
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:24 pm to
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Again why does Bama get to be the only team that’s worthy of playing for a national Championship with one loss?


That doesn't just magically happen. It happens because they are very near number one spot in the rankings at playoff time. We can argue why that is but if you are a voter and you've got to rank a team with the most talent in the country that plays dominant football all year how would you do it?

There are some fallacies in what you're implying. You're not saying it out right but you are insinuating that we are some how harming the program by focusing on Bama. Why? Even if Bama didn't exist the things we'd need to do to be a top program are the same things we need to do to beat them. So what's the problem?
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14797 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:24 pm to
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suggesting to recruits that in addition to the opportunity to play against the best of the best, if we fall short to a professional team,


So we "suggest" to our recruits the possibility of losing? Stop. Just stop. Why are you still typing?
Posted by LlyodChristmas
The Abandoned Jazzland
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:24 pm to
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shite, if Miles had thought of this he'd still be our coach

Negatory.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50533 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:29 pm to
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You're basically saying West and SEC titles don't matter.


They don't. If you are Bama.

The OP has a point about this year.

Any other season, LSU does not have the luxury of losing that game if they want to make a playoff. Bama does.

See 2011, for example. LSU loses the "Game of the Century that doesn't count anymore", LSU goes to the Sugar Bowl. Bama loses that game, LSU has to win the SEC for the right to rematch a team they already beat.

You can take that scenario above and replace Bama with another Blue Blood in another Conference and replace LSU with any other tier 2 team and it plays out the same. College football is all about brand. Bama has it.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9141 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:32 pm to
I agree w every word of that, however, I was talking specifically about LSU.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50533 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

I was talking specifically about LSU.


My bad
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:48 pm to
Would love for someone to pose actual rebuttal to arguments suggested. Please argue “Why it does mater” instead of baseless, emotional commentary. Thanks


Because the goal, as a program in the SEC, is to win the conference and advance to the playoffs. Winning the west gets you to the SECCG.

Why am I having to explain football 101 to you??

Obvious troll.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50533 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Because the goal, as a program in the SEC, is to win the conference and advance to the playoffs. Winning the west gets you to the SECCG.


But the OPs point is Bama doesn't. Not just this year, but any year, thus losing to LSU is meaningless for them. With that, he is trying to justify in his mind LSU losing to them is also meaningless, but it is not.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:02 pm to
You guys just keep getting dumber and dumber
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