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Harold Joiner Huge Difference Maker?
Posted on 11/4/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 11/4/17 at 5:31 pm
What I am curious about is if yall have the strong feeling, if he comes to LSU, that he will be a big difference maker? Do you have a similar feeling about him as you did Fournette or Guice talent wise? I have been watching his tape and the kid is HUGE! He seems to run like Le'veon Bell and Kerryon Johnson. Big backs that seem to dance a little behind the line of scrimmage before finding their hole.
Thanks
Thanks
Posted on 11/4/17 at 5:41 pm to ogfromda843
While he's not nearly as fast as Fournette or Guice, I feel like he will be a bell-cow running back for LSU. He will come in and start right away, most likely, if he decides to come here. I love his size and strength. He's also got a nice vertical leap. Another thing I love about him is his pass catching ability coming out of the backfield.
This post was edited on 11/4/17 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 11/4/17 at 5:55 pm to TigersFan64
You just described Jeremy Hill/Alfred Blue the year he started before he got hurt . Not flashy at all but just a monster back that’s going to tire you out .
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Posted on 11/4/17 at 5:56 pm to ogfromda843
I will be more excited to see Edwards Helaire if they ever play the kid. I mean I really don't understand not putting the kid in some games to gain experience for next season, even Brosette should be run more. Guice and Williams will be gone next season and these guys will be taking over. Both inexperienced at this point, I mean there really is no excuse for not running Brosette in the mix with Guice and Williams, I'm sure he's pissed about it.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 6:12 pm to tubucoco
I like him more than others. He's rated as highly as he is across the board for a reason.
I'm going to make a real outside the box comparison comparison, but it's only because I'm also a huge Saints fan and it's an easy one for me to make. Hes not going to beat anyone in the 40, he's not going to look like Reggie Bush in the open field, but he reminds me of Pierre Thomas. Obviously the size is different, Pierre wasn't flashy but for whatever reason teams struggled to bring him down. I don't know if I'd say Pierre was overly elusive or shifty, but more so he was "slippery." That's kind of what Joiner reminds me of when I watch him.
I'm going to make a real outside the box comparison comparison, but it's only because I'm also a huge Saints fan and it's an easy one for me to make. Hes not going to beat anyone in the 40, he's not going to look like Reggie Bush in the open field, but he reminds me of Pierre Thomas. Obviously the size is different, Pierre wasn't flashy but for whatever reason teams struggled to bring him down. I don't know if I'd say Pierre was overly elusive or shifty, but more so he was "slippery." That's kind of what Joiner reminds me of when I watch him.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 6:20 pm to NamariTiger
He looks really impressive in his highlight reels. He seems to find the hole and burst through it decisively. That does rather describe Jeremy Hill, doesn't it? Joiner also seems to run with great vision, which kind of reminds me of Charles Scott in a similar way. Joiner's pass blocking too appears strong. I saw him lay out a blitzer on one play.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 6:29 pm to ogfromda843
Doesn't play to his size in my opinion. Still happy to have him though.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 6:57 pm to ogfromda843
I like him A lot . If you’ve been watching ball a long time you might remember Chris Brown that used to play at Colorado and with The Titans, because he runs and is built similarly. He’s easily the best guy on our board right now and I view him as a must - get to keep our 2018 rotation competitive in the SEC.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 9:37 pm to TigerBait2008
He says that because of his herky jerky style if running.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 10:12 pm to ogfromda843
He may be a good back, I don't believe he is any better than Leonard or Derrius, but the difference makers are the hog's up front opening holes. If LSU can't get the olinemen to open holes, it won't matter who lines up behind them. (Except Barry Sanders) Runningbacks are only going to make a difference if their blocking can make a difference. And the past 2 years, the blocking has been subpar against some teams. But, if LSU can get some top notch olinemen, then yes, Joiner can be a difference maker. But, if they do, then there's other backs who could be difference makers too. Chris Curry, Brousette etc. Got to get the hogs though, unless, like I said, you got Barry Sanders in your backfield.
Posted on 11/4/17 at 10:53 pm to ogfromda843
Kid is already a man, I say if he comes he will start from the get go. We still will be loaded at RB. We have nothing to worry about the position.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 6:33 am to 4EvEr Bo REIN
Adequate SEC back, at best.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 6:54 am to ogfromda843
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but we could have really used Etienne and/or Akers.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 10:04 am to ogfromda843
Honestly, I think he's a little overrated. He looks big on film but doesn't look nearly as physical as he should. Combine that with it doesn't look like he has breakaway speed. I think he'll be a solid contributor but nowhere near a Guice/Fournette or even Jeremy Hill level. He looks more like a solid contributor like Darrel Williams to me. I would not be shocked to see them move him to another position like they did White.
This post was edited on 11/5/17 at 10:07 am
Posted on 11/5/17 at 10:21 am to deuce985
As good as guice is he is no fournette. Fournette is that special back that comes around once a decade and reestablishes why an elite back is the most valuable thing in the nfl. He has made the Jags relevant in less than a season. I place guice slightly ahead of Hill but both were/are great for LSU.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 10:23 am to tigerbacon
FYI white was moved to et him on the field since we had guice and fournette and no LB's. with good LB depth and no guice or fournette he is our rb this yar
Posted on 11/5/17 at 1:12 pm to tubucoco
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I will be more excited to see Edwards Helaire if they ever play the kid. I mean I really don't understand not putting the kid in some games to gain experience for next season, even Brosette should be run more. Guice and Williams will be gone next season and these guys will be taking over. Both inexperienced at this point, I mean there really is no excuse for not running Brosette in the mix with Guice and Williams, I'm sure he's pissed about it.
Running backsdon’t need a ton of experience. It’s not like quarterback. We have two really good backs and they will both be gone. So if you play CEH and he has a freak acl injury, where does that leave us at running back going into next year? We would be screwed. Very screwed. Do you see how an impulsive fan wish could lead to multiple losses and a serious deficiency in our run game. We have had enough trouble passing. Who are LSU if they can’t run the ball?? We will need him and if we land Joiner, we will need the two distinct skill sets that they provide. Especially in this offense.
This post was edited on 11/5/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 11/5/17 at 1:32 pm to ExpoTiger
Are you saying that CEH is not playing because they're holding him out so he doesn't get hurt?
That's one of the dumbest things I've heard on here/the rant. And I've been a member since 09'
That's one of the dumbest things I've heard on here/the rant. And I've been a member since 09'
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:31 am to ogfromda843
He is super talented but I think it will be a committee next year. I think the staff needs to pull in Pooka Williams from Hahnville to compliment whichever RB’s they do pull in. Williams will be a special player in this offense- an all-American type. He would get the sweep touches like Gage + returns. He has the ability to put up potentially 10+ TD’s year one.
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