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This is what happens when leagues compete instead of clubs
Posted on 10/10/17 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 8:56 pm
#ProRelForUSA
Posted on 10/10/17 at 8:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Yes...because that’s the reason this happened. Get the frick out of here.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 8:59 pm to GeauxColonels
It's maybe not the reason but it definitely is a reason.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
just fricking stop right now, save this shite for another time
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You're such a fgt
I bet you call yourself a Canadian when you go overseas too
I bet you call yourself a Canadian when you go overseas too
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:11 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
This is the perfect time because this completely illustrates EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN SAYING
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:13 pm to MF Doom
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I bet you call yourself a Canadian when you go overseas too
You're the one still propping up a completely arse backward system even in our darkest hours and I'm the one with the problem?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Go frick yourself
This is not pro/rel
This is Jurgen fricking us. This is Bruce not patching holes correctly. This is the players sucking dick outside of Pulisic
This is not pro/rel
This is Jurgen fricking us. This is Bruce not patching holes correctly. This is the players sucking dick outside of Pulisic
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:15 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
This
And this
Are interrelated
quote:
no pro/rel
And this
quote:
This is the players sucking dick
Are interrelated
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
QSG fan wants a competitive league?
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:43 am to Dead End
Ligue 1 is 20 times the league MLS is
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:06 am to Draconian Sanctions
Enjoy your downvote.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:12 am to Draconian Sanctions
So a lot of people are giving you shite.
However, I'm not seeing anyone offering up any other solutions that would give the potential results that pro/rel in MLS could 10 yrs down the line for the USMNT. I mean it is a proven system.
I get why the MLS owners don't want it to happen, but shite as a fan why wouldn't we want them to bite the bullet and do it. Sure it might suck for a few years and the league may have to help some promoted teams (Lord knows the league is making a shite load of money with no benefits going to the USMNT whatsoever) but I say go ahead and rip that bandaid off and it will be better in 5/10 years.
However, I'm not seeing anyone offering up any other solutions that would give the potential results that pro/rel in MLS could 10 yrs down the line for the USMNT. I mean it is a proven system.
I get why the MLS owners don't want it to happen, but shite as a fan why wouldn't we want them to bite the bullet and do it. Sure it might suck for a few years and the league may have to help some promoted teams (Lord knows the league is making a shite load of money with no benefits going to the USMNT whatsoever) but I say go ahead and rip that bandaid off and it will be better in 5/10 years.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:19 am to LSU316
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However, I'm not seeing anyone offering up any other solutions that would give the potential results that pro/rel in MLS could 10 yrs down the line for the USMNT. I mean it is a proven system.
Just spouting out "PRO/REL!!" At every opportunity isn't a real solution either.
The United States may get to Pro/Rel over the next 10-20 years, but you just can't pull a lever and expect it to happen. It will happen with the natural growth of the sport, which is ongoing.
The MLS is established and getting bigger/better every year. Then we need the second division to coalesce, which I believe is happening with the USL. USL is also working on a third division league as well.
Let all of that settle out and develop and the opportunity for Pro/Rel may be there.
But whatever needs to happen with the USSF and youth soccer and development in the country shouldn't be reliant on flipping the Pro/Rel switch y'all think exists. They can make changes and build around the current MLS structure with their youth academies as they are (and continuing to grow).
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:23 am to bodask42
We've beaten this dead horse. No MLS owner is going to be ok with pro rel. I'm not opposed to pro rel but it's just not feasible any time in the next 20 years. DS has the forethought of a retarded goldfish on this matter so he insists on beating us over the head with it as if it's some easily attainable deus ex machina for all of US soccer's structural problems.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:27 am to Draconian Sanctions
I still don't see what's stopping NASL or some other league from using pro/rel.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:27 am to bodask42
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They can make changes and build around the current MLS structure with their youth academies as they are
....find me an inner city kid at a "youth academy".
Many of the games current great were all inner city kids at one point and didn't have to pay to get good training in their youth....until that changes the current "youth system" will always be subpar in America. I get that the MLS is for profit....great. To have a U6-U12 system that is for profit is a damn joke.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:29 am to bodask42
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It will happen with the natural growth of the sport
No, it won't happen until the market demands it. Many of you (cwill i'm responding to you as well) play the role of the aggrieved citizen who won't vote because "what can one vote do?"
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But whatever needs to happen with the USSF and youth soccer and development in the country shouldn't be reliant on flipping the Pro/Rel switch y'all think exists. They can make changes and build around the current MLS structure with their youth academies as they are (and continuing to grow).
If you institute pro/rel, the youth structure issues will clear themselves up because the clubs will be forced to innovate in order to keep getting better and preserve their status. The clubs will do the work, which is how it is done in every other country in the world.
We are dramatically, hilariously underachieving with our national team and how MLS/SUM is run is at the heart of the reason why. That's reality whether you want to accept it or not.
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