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Construction Managers
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:18 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:18 am
How would you describe a normal day in your profession? Asking for a friend.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:21 am to GeauxLSU25
Managing Construction
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:27 am to GeauxLSU25
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This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 1:29 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:30 am to GeauxLSU25
anything specific your "friend" wants to know? Residential, commercial, or industrial?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:37 am to GeauxLSU25
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How would you describe a normal day in your profession? Asking for a friend.
I'll add to that. What's your time in the field vs in the office? I'm interested in finishing my degree, and have found civil engineering online to pretty rare. And with 16 years experience, and the money I'm making, the thought of switching industries seems tough to think about.
But I'd like more consistency and job security within a city. I'm probably on what will be my last traveling project. frick living a miserable life like a Kiewit employee, regardless of pay.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 1:40 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:58 am to GeauxLSU25
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How would you describe a normal day in your profession?
Dealing with b$tching welders, foreign engineers, business executives who don't know their arse from a skyhook, and the assorted dregs of society for 11 hours a day while you try to actually do the real work they supposedly pay you to do: dick around on excel and write RFI's.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:38 am to GeauxLSU25
From what I've seen they complain all day, smoke a cigarette every 5 minutes, and then pat themselves on the back for all the work they've done.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:48 am to GeauxLSU25
On site for 6:15 am, walk the site for a couple hours, positioning subs where manpower needs to be concentrated, and handing out approved changes/RFI's to whoever needs them, back in the trailer for ~11 am. Write whatever RFI's needed for the problems discovered on my "morning walk" (if there were any). Usually have some bs meeting with an underperforming sub or a vendor before lunch.
After lunch, walk the site for a couple hours again, noticing what has been/hasn't been done compared to what I asked for that particular day. Most subs go home by 3pm, so that's when I usually go back to the trailer.
Spend 3pm-5/6pm studying the schedule and production tracking to figure out what/who needs to be pushed that week. Also use this time to update daily reports and project schedules.
As a superintendent I'm an adult babysitter, fact checker and problem solver.
Never go to our actual home office if I can help it.
Eta: I'm in commercial, with a GC fwiw. Building a middle school right now.
There's some more involved bullshite that goes on with complicated change orders, owners meetings, sit downs with subs, my project staff, etc. That's boring shite though.
After lunch, walk the site for a couple hours again, noticing what has been/hasn't been done compared to what I asked for that particular day. Most subs go home by 3pm, so that's when I usually go back to the trailer.
Spend 3pm-5/6pm studying the schedule and production tracking to figure out what/who needs to be pushed that week. Also use this time to update daily reports and project schedules.
As a superintendent I'm an adult babysitter, fact checker and problem solver.
Never go to our actual home office if I can help it.
Eta: I'm in commercial, with a GC fwiw. Building a middle school right now.
There's some more involved bullshite that goes on with complicated change orders, owners meetings, sit downs with subs, my project staff, etc. That's boring shite though.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 4:50 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:19 am to GeauxLSU25
Meetings, babysitting subcontractors, mediating disputes that really shouldn't occur, playing in golf tournaments.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:38 am to GeauxLSU25
I can tell you that 99% of people won't hire in to a contract company and walk in the door as a Construction Manager unless they have 20+ years of experience in that specific trade and the project experience to prove it. If you've just graduated in CM as far as Industrial goes and hire in as a contractor, they will likely make you work in the field on your tools for a period of time to learn what goes on in the field. Anyone can punch keys on a keyboard, but actually knowing the ins and outs of the business and applying/managing it is completely different. You have to know it from top to bottom from contracts, estimating/take-offs, materials, putting together budgets, breaking out estimates into schedule activities, schedule building, resource loading, logic/coding/sequencing, change orders, RFI's, productivity, cost engineering, forecasting, etc. As a CM you will have individuals under you doing most of the mentioned above and if you have a solid team under you it will manage itself for the most part, but when the shite hits the fan (always does) you have to know how to fix it and deal with the client.. Aside from the above, meetings.. meetings.. and more meetings. Even meetings about the meetings.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 6:57 am to GeauxLSU25
Are you wanting to be in the field as a superintendent or more office like a project manager? I've done both.
Superintendent- long hours basically babysitting adults and making sure they are doing what they contractually agreed to.
Project Manager- lots of talking on the phone asking adults why they didn't do what they contractually agreed to. Plus lots of report writing and budgeting both teams and money for the project.
Currently I'm a deep foundations inspector. Besides the hours this project I am on right now, I love it.
Superintendent- long hours basically babysitting adults and making sure they are doing what they contractually agreed to.
Project Manager- lots of talking on the phone asking adults why they didn't do what they contractually agreed to. Plus lots of report writing and budgeting both teams and money for the project.
Currently I'm a deep foundations inspector. Besides the hours this project I am on right now, I love it.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 7:00 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:08 am to GeauxLSU25
Get up early
Manage subs for an hour or two
Stay on the phone
Leave the job site at 3
Keep lies to owner about schedule and change orders straight
Rinse and repeat
Manage subs for an hour or two
Stay on the phone
Leave the job site at 3
Keep lies to owner about schedule and change orders straight
Rinse and repeat
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:39 am to GeauxLSU25
Meetings, babysitting, listening to bitching, walk around and check my projects, sort priorities and filter down to my contractors. I probably spend 80% in my office fricking off when we're slow, and probably 50% when we're busy.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:26 am to GeauxLSU25
Glorified babysitter, honestly
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:23 am to GeauxLSU25
CM is a degree that you can pretty much do anything you want in construction. Residential, Commercial, Industrial, Heavy Civil, Piping, Structural Steel. etc. etc. You can either work in project management of some sort or estimating. What was said earlier about being experienced to be a manager is correct. Working in the field, you'll start out scheduling, writing daily reports/RFI's, timesheets/payroll, or purchasing and spending as much time as possible doing walk-down's and trying to learn the field you are in. If you're in estimating you'll be sending out RFQ packages, preliminary schedules, and doing takeoffs. The downside is you're a desk jockey 95% of the time with the occasional site visit or out of office meeting. The positive for that is you work normal hours, out of the heat/cold all day, and usually work from a main office instead of traveling from job to job. I've worked both field project management and estimating now in my 12+ years and prefer estimating, you have to be a good people person to be a PM. It really is a babysitting job most of the time whether it be your own people, subs, or clients. Eventually you get tired of working with some of those people and the bullshite they bring to you on a daily basis at 6am after you drove and hour to get to the jobsite. With estimating you get a package on your desk, usually bid it within a month or so, get instant results of your work win or lose, then move onto the next one. Depending on what size company you're with, you may have to help get the project going with contract buyouts, submittals, and purchasing. Smaller company PM's usually wear all the hats, estimate & manage. Being a traveling PM has benefits in pay, but not very conducive to family life.
Main thing is CM is knowledge based, knowledge you learn outside of school. If you've worked in the field at all, which is preferable, use your knowledge to expand in that field. You could always change fields, but you'll have to learn a whole new type of construction. I.E. going from commercial interior work to heavy civil/structural.
Main thing is CM is knowledge based, knowledge you learn outside of school. If you've worked in the field at all, which is preferable, use your knowledge to expand in that field. You could always change fields, but you'll have to learn a whole new type of construction. I.E. going from commercial interior work to heavy civil/structural.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:26 am
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