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re: My theory on what's happening in LSU Athletics

Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Abe1961
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:23 am to
There would have been no reason to fire miles. Theory is wrong!
Posted by Delmore1951
Homer La
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:24 am to
Your theory SUCKS POST LESS GET A LIFE. ALL YOUR LONG WRITING DIDN'T IMPRESS
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:24 am to
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My point is that Alleva must think he can run a mediocre football program, bring in similar revenue numbers because Coach O is a likeable cajun - all the while rebuilding our basketball program.


Again, why is it one or the other? Why not build championship level teams in BOTH sports?

Now, another reason why your theory doesnt make sense. If the idea is to not be competitive in football and build a championship basketball program, answere these questions:

1. Why has Alleva, as others have pointed out, not kept all his promises about resources and facility upgrades that he made to Wade? Seems like that would ahve been priority #1.

2. Why did he give O a blank check to hire coordinators, making Aranda and Canada 2 of the highest paid assistants in the country? If his goal was to devalue football as you suggest, why didn't he cut the assistant coach budget and use that money saved for basketball?
Posted by Bawser
Member since Dec 2016
225 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:28 am to
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Your theory SUCKS POST LESS GET A LIFE. ALL YOUR LONG WRITING DIDN'T IMPRESS


You make some really good points.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3514 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:29 am to
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I’m out.

I don’t care about basketball


Nice work OP. But nah
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:33 am to
Interesting take. Shake off the down votes.
Posted by Bawser
Member since Dec 2016
225 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:34 am to
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Again, why is it one or the other? Why not build championship level teams in BOTH sports?


I think he feels we are too far behind in recruiting and coaching to win a championship short term. Mainly due to Saban's dominance of the SEC. There is possibly a long term plan in place, but he is buying time at the moment.

quote:

1. Why has Alleva, as others have pointed out, not kept all his promises about resources and facility upgrades that he made to Wade? Seems like that would ahve been priority #1.


I agree, this does hurt my theory. I can't answer that.

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2. Why did he give O a blank check to hire coordinators, making Aranda and Canada 2 of the highest paid assistants in the country? If his goal was to devalue football as you suggest, why didn't he cut the assistant coach budget and use that money saved for basketball?


Also hurts my theory - we definitely overpaid Coach O and his coordinators. This part is really difficult to explain. This where I start to think - "Well maybe Joe Alleva really is the worst AD in college"

Both fair points, you are probably right. Maybe Alleva is just a complete moron. I am trying to think of all angles, and give him some benefit of doubt.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:39 am to
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Both fair points, you are probably right. Maybe Alleva is just a complete moron


Maybe not a complete moron. I don't think a complete moron gets to this position to begin with.

But, gong back to Duke Lacrosse, he seems to have a habit of making decisions in the heat of the moment without taking time to reflect on weather or not its the rigth decision.

And more often than not, those decisions have been wrong. This one may cost both him and O their careers.
Posted by Bawser
Member since Dec 2016
225 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:44 am to
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Maybe not a complete moron. I don't think a complete moron gets to this position to begin with.

But, gong back to Duke Lacrosse, he seems to have a habit of making decisions in the heat of the moment without taking time to reflect on weather or not its the rigth decision.

And more often than not, those decisions have been wrong. This one may cost both him and O their careers.


So Coach O was an impulse buy, with a 12 million dollar first year buyout?

I think that qualifies him as a complete moron.

OR, he has some type of special agenda or interest.

Agree - I think where this is backfiring is that we may not even be competitive this year AT ALL. If we fail to win an SEC game, goodbye.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 11:45 am
Posted by Bawser
Member since Dec 2016
225 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:52 am to
Here's where we finished in revenue last fiscal year. You don't think it's possible Alleva believes he could double our basketball revenue in 3-4 years, increasing profits through ticket sales if we're winning a lot of games, while keeping football revenue growth flat?

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119560 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:10 pm to
Your theory makes no sense. There are many more better qualified coaches that would have taken the head coaching job for 0’s current salary. Hell, the top 50% of Louisiana high school coaches are more qualified than 0.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:16 pm to
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So Coach O was an impulse buy, with a 12 million dollar first year buyout?


Yes. Not a very smart one.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:17 pm to
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while keeping football revenue growth flat?


Why would he want to NOT grow the biggest money maker? Especially when attempting to do so may COST MILLIONS?
Posted by Bawser
Member since Dec 2016
225 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:23 pm to
I think this is where we can agree to disagree.

I believe he thinks there is no opportunity to create revenue growth for football, until Saban leaves Bama.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:32 pm to
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I believe he thinks there is no opportunity to create revenue growth for football, until Saban leaves Bama.


That's really a piss poor, defeatist's attitude to be honest.

The risk you run is that the rest of the SEC does not just give up against Bama and starts to improve. Then when Saban leaves, LSU is not only still behind Bama, but the rest of the SECW as well.


And I still don't get this irrational fear of Bama. LSU is the one school that should have absolutely NO fear of them.

We've beaten Bama I think more than any other team since Saban got there. And even while losing 6 in a row, more often than not, we've stood toe to toe with them with the game lost only on 1 or 2 plays.

Losing 6 very competitive games in a row isn't a reason to just say "frick it" and accept the idea that they are invincible. That's the definition of being a pussy.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119560 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:34 pm to
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I believe he thinks there is no opportunity to create revenue growth for football, until Saban leaves Bama.




You can do both even with Saban at Alabama.

Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:36 pm to
should just get rid of all sports that don't generate a profit.

sorry girls, no one really likes women's sports anyway. one of the dumber ideas of the 20th century.
Posted by RightHook
Member since Dec 2013
5560 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 12:38 pm to
we're already gonna dip from last year in football revenue.

gotta keep winning man.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6484 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:32 pm to
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I understand you guys are upset, but no need to be ugly in your responses. I'm merely suggesting a theory. Whether it's true or not, I don't know.


What you are suggesting is the single dumbest thing anyone has ever posted on Tigerdroppings, which is an accomplishment.
Posted by Bawser
Member since Dec 2016
225 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 1:33 pm to
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What you are suggesting is the single dumbest thing anyone has ever posted on Tigerdroppings, which is an accomplishment.


Given that you can't provide any intelligent counterpoints, sounds like you have no grounds to make that statement.
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