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Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:05 pm to jamal
I think the jury's still out on him. We're playing a lot of young guys on a defense that lost a lot. I do however wonder about his 3-4 scheme though. It just doesn't look like Georgia or even Alabama's. Maybe it's the personnel...idk
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:06 pm to jtran1988
That's true! Scared me when he said that lol
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:07 pm to jamal
He's great. He don't have the players he had last year.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:14 pm to Tigerfan56
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This year- I mean what can he do. We have no depth right now, we are worn down at the end of every game.
I see what you’re trying to say, but the defense has been getting its arse handed to them in the first half of games...he has been figured out
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:51 pm to jamal
Aranda is super elite. I expected us to be worse this year because we lost some legit NFL players (most of the defenders we lost are starting in the NFL right now).
DL
Gilmore - never done shite
Lacouture - mediocre before injury, does really nothing now
Lawrence is hurt, Alexander is hurt, Logan and Ferrell are freshman
LB
Great White - doing his thing
Thompson - he's okay
Alexander - not the Duke Riley we we're hoping for
Key - out of shape and slow. I really hope he comes back next year. I think he'll be questioned about on and off the field stuff that will push him out of the top few rounds when he should have been a top 10 pick.
Secondary
Jackson - isn't bad
Toliver - still not what we expected
Greedy - will be a first rounder after 3 years
Battle - not good
Delpit - he'll be real good in the future
Honestly I expect this defense to improve over the season. We'll get some guys back, some of the freshman will gain experience, and Aranda will get the other problems fixed over the bye week.
I trust Aranda 100% to have this defense ready to go later in the year. I don't trust Canada to improve anything though.
DL
Gilmore - never done shite
Lacouture - mediocre before injury, does really nothing now
Lawrence is hurt, Alexander is hurt, Logan and Ferrell are freshman
LB
Great White - doing his thing
Thompson - he's okay
Alexander - not the Duke Riley we we're hoping for
Key - out of shape and slow. I really hope he comes back next year. I think he'll be questioned about on and off the field stuff that will push him out of the top few rounds when he should have been a top 10 pick.
Secondary
Jackson - isn't bad
Toliver - still not what we expected
Greedy - will be a first rounder after 3 years
Battle - not good
Delpit - he'll be real good in the future
Honestly I expect this defense to improve over the season. We'll get some guys back, some of the freshman will gain experience, and Aranda will get the other problems fixed over the bye week.
I trust Aranda 100% to have this defense ready to go later in the year. I don't trust Canada to improve anything though.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:53 pm to LSU49er
Can't run a 3-4 without 3 studs up front. We don't have 3 at all. We hardly have 3 defensive lineman period. I think both
Aranda and Canada are hamstrung by personnel issues and can't do what they really want to do. Either personnel or head coach. Jury is still out.
Aranda and Canada are hamstrung by personnel issues and can't do what they really want to do. Either personnel or head coach. Jury is still out.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:57 pm to jamal
Great coordinator and would not trade him for anyone else.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:58 pm to RxHunter
Aranda is one of the best DCs in the country, he's proven that with lesser talent. Our issue on both sides of the ball is mental. Lack of discipline and some times effort jumps off the screen. Successful teams play against their own standard, we have yet to establish what we will accept as our minimum standard; that's on leadership, from O to team captains
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:59 pm to jamal
Seems like the current D coordinator at Wisconsin is doing pretty good. Must be the players and system. We can go after him next.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:01 pm to jamal
I think he is overrated. Tired of hearing about young players. They are top recruits. Other sec teams have young players too. Step it up and play
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:06 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Even a great DC cannot overcome a toxic culture and a team that lacks motivation and discipline from its head coach.
I will lifetime ban bet he goes immediately back to being an elite DC when he’s not under Orgeron.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he has already started looking before O brings him completely down.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:27 pm to Rza32
Aranda is elite. Don't be spooked.
At UW there is a strong culture and work ethic. Built for 25 years with the same leadership.
LSU needs that culture to go along with its recruiting. Sometimes if you just rely on stars you are relying on paper tigers.
TCU and Washington both have head coaches that could take LSU to that elite level again.
At UW there is a strong culture and work ethic. Built for 25 years with the same leadership.
LSU needs that culture to go along with its recruiting. Sometimes if you just rely on stars you are relying on paper tigers.
TCU and Washington both have head coaches that could take LSU to that elite level again.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:34 pm to RxHunter
I agree
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:41 pm to tigertex1992
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The fact that even the defense looks bad tells you more about what's going on with the program as a whole than it does about Aranda.
My thought as well.
Aranda right now has nothing other than Devin White to anchor his schemes around. We're down a complete rotation on DL and full of youthful mistakes in the secondary.
I still think our D can be a force to reckoned with this season.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:46 pm to jamal
He's one of the best DC's in college football. AND he is woefully unmotivated by his current situation.
Remember, he came to work for Les Miles. A national championship winning Head Coach who had been a mainstay in the SEC since 2005. He came to be Ed Orgeron's boss as well.
Within 4 games, the coach that hired him was gone. And the DL coach he had 'firing up the boys' and not much more was now his boss.
You ever work for someone you don't respect at all? If so, did you give 100% effort all the time for that person? Leadership goes a long ways, lack of leadership does the same.
Remember, he came to work for Les Miles. A national championship winning Head Coach who had been a mainstay in the SEC since 2005. He came to be Ed Orgeron's boss as well.
Within 4 games, the coach that hired him was gone. And the DL coach he had 'firing up the boys' and not much more was now his boss.
You ever work for someone you don't respect at all? If so, did you give 100% effort all the time for that person? Leadership goes a long ways, lack of leadership does the same.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:51 pm to jamal
Our defense is still our strongest unit of the three
I hope we can retain him even with our defensive woes
I hope we can retain him even with our defensive woes
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:55 pm to Walnut
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I hope we can retain him even with our defensive woes
me too
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:08 pm to jamal
You know that saying about when life gives you lemons you make lemonade? O has given Aranda shite to work with and there isn't much to make out of that. The players are not motivated. The players appear to be out of shape. The defensive line coach is 76 years old and too old to recruit. These are not things that you can blame on the defensive coordinator.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:29 pm to JawjaTigah
Aranda
I disagree. For one, at least Aranda (and I imagine Canada as well) has a significant buyout if he leaves early for a non-HC job. I doubt he'd take a HC job paying him less than he's getting now ($1.8-1.9 million/year). Regarding his original contract in 1/16,
"Aranda does not have to pay a buyout if he leaves for a head coaching job. He must pay 50 percent of his remaining salary if he leaves for a non-head coaching job in the Southeastern Conference or “a Football Bowl Subdivision football program within a 500 miles radius of LSU,” the contract reads.
He must pay 20 percent of his remaining salary if he were to leave for any other non-head coaching job."
There's no contract buyout after 12/19. The contract ends 3/31/20.
OTOH, I think big failures of the offense this year could be detrimental to Canada's coaching reputation. Aranda is a proven commodity in the coaching circles. I don't think that applies as much to Canada, especially if he does poorly this year.
Canada's getting $1.5/year for three years. Regarding Canada's buyout of his contract: "If he leaves for a non-head coaching position at another SEC school or to a school within 500 miles of LSU, he owes 40 percent of his remaining salary. If he leaves for similar positions outside of a 500-mile radius of LSU, he owes 15 percent of his salary.
There is no buyout after Dec. 1, 2019."
Bottom line: We probably have the highest paid OC/DC combination in college football and will probably have them a while (barring something stupid like what Bobby Petrino or Hugh Freeze did).
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is actively sending out feelers to other viable programs. Canada too. This is a career killer.
I disagree. For one, at least Aranda (and I imagine Canada as well) has a significant buyout if he leaves early for a non-HC job. I doubt he'd take a HC job paying him less than he's getting now ($1.8-1.9 million/year). Regarding his original contract in 1/16,
"Aranda does not have to pay a buyout if he leaves for a head coaching job. He must pay 50 percent of his remaining salary if he leaves for a non-head coaching job in the Southeastern Conference or “a Football Bowl Subdivision football program within a 500 miles radius of LSU,” the contract reads.
He must pay 20 percent of his remaining salary if he were to leave for any other non-head coaching job."
There's no contract buyout after 12/19. The contract ends 3/31/20.
OTOH, I think big failures of the offense this year could be detrimental to Canada's coaching reputation. Aranda is a proven commodity in the coaching circles. I don't think that applies as much to Canada, especially if he does poorly this year.
Canada's getting $1.5/year for three years. Regarding Canada's buyout of his contract: "If he leaves for a non-head coaching position at another SEC school or to a school within 500 miles of LSU, he owes 40 percent of his remaining salary. If he leaves for similar positions outside of a 500-mile radius of LSU, he owes 15 percent of his salary.
There is no buyout after Dec. 1, 2019."
Bottom line: We probably have the highest paid OC/DC combination in college football and will probably have them a while (barring something stupid like what Bobby Petrino or Hugh Freeze did).
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