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Throwing the ball over the middle of the field

Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:39 pm
Is it more difficult for QBs to do this?

I don't know a whole sit ton about football, so I could be way off here. But it seems to me that throwing it over the middle of the field would result in the QB getting rid of it faster and having a shorter/easier throw. The middle of the field seemed to be WIDE open very often Saturday, but most of our throws were outside of the numbers. I'm not talking about throwing it deep over the middle of the field. I'm talking 5-15 yard routes. When we did it, it seemed to work.

Do we avoid it because LBs are lurking in the middle sometimes and it makes a more difficult read for the qb? Do we avoid it because throwing over or through the defensive line makes it more difficult?

Somebody smarter than me explain please.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34867 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:43 pm to
Under throws and over throws result more in picks as opposed to throwing to the sideline.

That's why LSU never threw a pass between the hashes after Lee's struggles with pick 6s.


Posted by GeauxTigerNation
Member since 1988
Member since Nov 2013
13429 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:44 pm to
Not hard for anyone but us
Posted by CaliTigerHB
Huntington Beach
Member since Jul 2015
1696 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:45 pm to
More defenders over middle of field. They stopped throwing it over the middle when Jarrett Lee threw 6 pick 6s
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6642 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

smarter than me


Smarter than I
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68632 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:49 pm to
Etling has said the coaches put a major emphasis on not turning the ball over hence we arent going to use all of the field in the passing game. Throws in the middle lead to INTs.

And I'm not saying this is the right way to go about it at all...
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
1727 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Do we avoid it because LBs are lurking in the middle sometimes and it makes a more difficult read for the qb? Do we avoid it because throwing over or through the defensive line makes it more difficult?


Winner, winner.

The "Golden Zone" is in between the hash marks and the numbers. It is beneficial for all involved, easy throw for the qb and wr usually has space or only one man to beat. Throwing over the middle of the field means the ball has to pass the defensive line and enter center field where LBs, SSs, FSs, and DB,s lurk and if a WR tips the ball it is almost certainly an interception.

If you pay attention to the passes made in the last 4 games you will notice a majority go to the sideline or over the top behind safeties. This is done to minimize turnover. However, LSU WRs do run across the middle and some even get open, but the ball seems to always go to the perimeter which means two things; 1) Etling doesn't have the confidence/accuracy to make the throw, or 2) The coaches tell him not to throw across the middle. I think #2 is the most likely, because of Etling's weak arm and conservative play calling style of Canada (so for this season). The way this offense plays, an interception(s) would absolutely kill us so we play scared and limit what we can do.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14217 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:00 pm to
That option is referred to as the Jarrett Lee route. The fear of success will loom over that option for decades. Coaching changes and personnel changes arent even strong enough to break the JL gris gris !
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 7:32 pm
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33666 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

I don't know a whole sit ton about football


Then you will fit in very nicely around this board...
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Is it more difficult for QBs to do this? 


Yes, linebackers and nickel backs playing zone. Example- Drew Brews one of the best quarter backs throws a lot of is his interceptions with linebackers in zone coverage. It helps if your tight end and running back doesn't have to help block which is a no no for this offensive line.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26747 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:56 pm to
When LSU fans crown Etling for not turning the ball over, vs all these shite defenses we play no less, they fail to realize that he avoids throwing over the middle like the plague. He's been mostly throwing it outside or way deep down field. LSU is going to look like hot garbage on offense once real SEC play starts and Etling is still the main QB.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7635 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:50 pm to
Go back in time to an Auburn game. Lyn Amadee offensive coach. Calling for passes over the middle. 4 pick sixes!
Is that what you want?
Posted by smil3432
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2016
377 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 4:35 pm to
Often overlooked regrading this is the knowledge the wr has to have running most routes in the middle of the field.
Identifying coverage pre snap, throttling down vs running through, complementary routes based formation/changing coverages. And the QB has to trust the wr to make all these decisions.
I can say we may have 1 guy that seems capable of this right now
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