re: Why do liberals/leftists hate the flag and national anthem?

They have no liberals around them to talk to about opposing views on issues so they see the REEE meme stuff and apply it to all liberals. It's an example of being fundamentally closed minded.

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Define 'liberal' - I consider myself a true liberal in that I am all for progress and the examination of new ideas and the absolute rule of logic and fact with a substantial feeling of helping out my fellow man. I am not much enthralled by the arts, personally, but I am very glad so many are who produce outstanding works that I would never have the capacity to try duplicating.

I adopt the 'conservative' label because that is the only place where logic, respect, true charity, common sense, real tolerance, courage and aspiration actually finds a home.

I try to avoid harping on "liberals" in my tirades against the evils of the modern culture that I think are destroying our nation, preferring to characterize this phenomenon as "radical left wing socialism," although I sometimes fall into the lazy nomenclature of 'liberal.'

I reject the tag of "libertarian" because that group seems to have a one-issue agenda = 'legalize dope' - and I am nowhere near that idiocy. I align with the rest of their 'small-government' assertions, but that is just an addendum to their main objective.

I suspect most 'conservatives' on here are pretty much the same as I am, with some outliers, mostly with alliance with the 'legalize dope' crowd.

So - what are you as a "liberal?"

Because looking at your list of "gotchas' you appear to be in the radical left wing socialist camp, rather than the rational, logic driven, aspirational true 'liberal' camp.