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re: Jimmy Kimmel and Chuck Schumer colluded together to fight Graham/Cassidy bill
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:19 pm to bamafan1001
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:19 pm to bamafan1001
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This is a different Jimmy Kimmel from the Jimmy from the man show. Adam Carolla never sold out to the left, hell he had Bill O'Reilly on his show today... I just dont get it
I get how it happened. Even back in the earlier days, Jimmy was always an emotional guy. Jimmy, unlike the other late night hosts, is actually friends with many of his guests. It's why he's by far the best at doing skits with them.
Matt Damon and Ben Affleck are actually dear friends of Kimmel, sat at the same table during his wedding as Carolla, and has them all over on Sunday to watch the NFL. It's listening to people like Affleck, Damon, and his ex Sarah Silverman that converted him. He has been fairly openly nonpartisan until recently, and I think his son finally made him completely snap.
And it's hard to blame them. Carolla is exceptionally defiant with his opinions due to his shitty parents constantly demeaning him and won't let Hollywood break him. Kimmel though came up from a good and stable background and can be much more trusting than Carolla. If you know these two well, it makes perfect sense how they ended up in their respected positions.
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:20 pm to cajunangelle
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Just people wondering why he campaigned on gutting OCare; and seems to be voting like Schumer tells him.
Maybe they have something on him. I mean, didn't he commission the Trump dossier or something?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:28 pm to IAmReality
quote:You can't be serious. You don't think that Jimmy Kimmel is sincere in this? You think it should be illegal for a talk show host to consult with politicians to get the facts on issues before talking about it. I know you probably like infowars, but ignorant posturing is not good.
This type of secret collusion should be illegal. If he's working with an elected official there should be disclaimers.
Otherwise it's like a under the table campaign contribution.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:30 pm to OMLandshark
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If Kimmel is so fricking confident he knows what he's talking about on healthcare, he really needs to invite Ben Shapiro on to discuss it. Very coincidentally, Shapiro's daughter has the same heart condition Kimmel's son does and was operated on by the exact same doctor in the exact same hospital. By Kimmel's own self proclaimed credentials, Shapiro is exactly equally viable in his own views of healthcare. If Kimmel really wants to put his money where his mouth is, that is who he invites on to discuss it.
I'm a Shaprio skeptic myself and have plenty of problems with him myself but I would pay good money to see this debate.
It would be the worst mismatch in late night history.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:33 pm to IAmReality
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This type of secret collusion should be illega
Why?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:35 pm to mmcgrath
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You can't be serious. You don't think that Jimmy Kimmel is sincere in this? You think it should be illegal for a talk show host to consult with politicians to get the facts on issues before talking about it. I know you probably like infowars, but ignorant posturing is not good.
Kimmel has clearly been studying healthcare hardcore these past few weeks, so do I doubt that he knows as much about healthcare as the average Congressman: absolutely not. The guy knows as much as the average frickhead on Capitol Hill. But get on Shapiro, someone who understands it more than 99% of the people on that Hill and has gone through the literal exact same experience he has. I don't trust a Congressman to not frick it up, especially since they have reasons to lie, but get on Shapiro who no one has ever accused of lying before.
I'd give Jimmy mad props for having him on and he'd undeniably have balls for doing so. Unfortunately (although I think Shapiro wouldn't be as vicious given their mutual experiences and link to Carolla) I think it would go something like this: LINK
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:49 pm to OMLandshark
That makes a lot of sense
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:59 pm to HailToTheChiz
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fricked up that he would use his kid as political capital
Even more fricked up that he uses his kid who comes from a millionaire family with the best medical coverage and options in the world to try and guilt other middle and upper middle class people into choosing a healthcare plan that can literally leave them broke and/or dead due to higher costs and less access.
That is some white people problems x1000.
Sucks his kid was born with a heart condition but his family has suffered ZERO financially or access-wise.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:01 pm to Raylan70
If McCain is voting "no" because of the Kimmel show, can Kimmel and Schumer be charged with collusion?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:11 pm to OMLandshark
quote:My post was in response to someone who thought it should be illegal for someone who publicly comments on an issue to consult with politicians on that issue.
Kimmel has clearly been studying healthcare hardcore these past few weeks, so do I doubt that he knows as much about healthcare as the average Congressman: absolutely not. The guy knows as much as the average frickhead on Capitol Hill. But get on Shapiro, someone who understands it more than 99% of the people on that Hill and has gone through the literal exact same experience he has. I don't trust a Congressman to not frick it up, especially since they have reasons to lie, but get on Shapiro who no one has ever accused of lying before.
I'd give Jimmy mad props for having him on and he'd undeniably have balls for doing so. Unfortunately (although I think Shapiro wouldn't be as vicious given their mutual experiences and link to Carolla) I think it would go something like this: LINK
As for your idea of a Kimmel v Shapiro debate, I don't think it would go as well as you think. But really we should have a marathon of health care debates. Right now we have none. Maybe C-SPAN should show 24-7 health care debates for a week like it was big brother or something.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:57 pm to HailToTheChiz
quote:I don't think this a fair representation. I think he's maybe gone about in the wrong way; and I think there is pretty good chance that Schumer's data painted a biased, if not, inaccurate picture.
fricked up that he would use his kid as political capital
That being said, I think his kid is the reason he is so obsessed with this and it's personal, maybe too personal. But I think he honestly believes what he's arguing, and his kid is the cause for it all, rather than a convenience to push for purely political purposes.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:04 am to Iosh
Well that is why we keep telling you that you are not bright
Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:18 am to Sentrius
Well, I think House of Cards is a documentary, so my question is, what is Disney/ABC getting out of this from the Democrats? Preferential FCC treatment to stem the cord-cutting and ESPN losses?
Or is the Democrat Party bribing Kimmel directly to protect Hussein's legacy, and keep Obamacare from being repealed (the ripple effects of which would show taxpayers that they were getting screwed, ruining the Democrats and their power grab to control our health)?
Or is the Democrat Party bribing Kimmel directly to protect Hussein's legacy, and keep Obamacare from being repealed (the ripple effects of which would show taxpayers that they were getting screwed, ruining the Democrats and their power grab to control our health)?
Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:23 am to DEG
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Why?
If Kimmel wants to give his own personal opinions, that's fine.
However once he starts consulting with elected officials, he's not acting on his own anymore. He's doing their political handiwork.
Political donations, both to candidates and PACs are supposed to be publicly disclosed. The public has a right to know who is connected to who.
Kimmel is basically giving the DNC propaganda machine millions upon millions of dollars of free commercial time because he's going out on national TV and regurgitating their talking points verbatim.
If he's consulting with elected officials to get talking points to give on TV it should be disclosed.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:43 am to IAmReality
quote:But that doesn't explain why it should be Illegal, especially absent a financial transaction. It's still speech afterall, and freedom of speech doesn’t just go away because the speech is based in information from a politician.
However once he starts consulting with elected officials, he's not acting on his own anymore. He's doing their political handiwork.
quote:Just like any one of the political pundit hacks on the news on both sides.
Kimmel is basically giving the DNC propaganda machine millions upon millions of dollars of free commercial time because he's going out on national TV and regurgitating their talking points verbatim.
quote:Again. If no financial transactions occured, then why should have to disclose communications with anyone.
If he's consulting with elected officials to get talking points to give on TV it should be disclosed.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:55 am to mmcgrath
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As for your idea of a Kimmel v Shapiro debate, I don't think it would go as well as you think.
Really? Then find one where he lost. Really sometime soon he's going to appear on Sam Harris' podcast, and save for Larry Elder, I think both are the greatest arguers currently living. Shapiro should fear Harris (and vice versa) not Jimmy fricking Kimmel who both wouldn't break a sweat destroying. Shapiro and Harris are mental equals; they'd both eat Kimmel alive with a strong disagreement.
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 12:57 am
Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:56 am to Sentrius
I knew kimmel was too stupid to dream up the pro obamacare lies all by himself.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:57 am to Iosh
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What I'm getting from this is Jimmy Kimmel is better at executing his agenda in the Senate than Trump, and he didn't even have to leave broadcast TV to do it.
Man, that'll leave a mark.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:05 am to asurob1
I would like your opinion with my assessment with Jimmy being socially influenced.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:05 am to mmcgrath
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As for your idea of a Kimmel v Shapiro debate, I don't think it would go as well as you think.
How would it go then?
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