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re: Question to libs about prexisting conditions and high risk

Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:06 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20956 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:06 am to
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Tell us how much of our money will make you happy?



The ironic part of this is that other countries with far more socialistic programs have better life expectancy for less money. Lets not pretend we have some sort of great efficient system over here.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43427 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:08 am to
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have better life expectancy for less money.


Their better life expectancy is due to culture, not money.

Those other "socialist" countries have a culture of walking/exercising and not cramming their faces with McDonalds 24/7.

ETA: This country wants everyone to have cadillac healthcare for a majority who treats their bodies like shite.

There's not enough money on the entire planet to support that.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424713 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:09 am to
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The ironic part of this is that other countries with far more socialistic programs have better life expectancy for less money. Lets not pretend we have some sort of great efficient system over here.

the problem with our system is the same problem with our educational system: our underclass skews everything by making bad choices

the US is a unique country in the world where we have both a large population of economic elites that are unmatched in scope anywhere else (and only beaten in individual wealth by authoritarians in resource-rich countries) while also having an underclass that rivals the developing world.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141062 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:10 am to
Those countries do not have the same demographics as we do. We aren't those countries.

Some like to decry others when it's said that Country A does this. The typical response is but we aren't country A.

If you think socialistic policies are good for the country then vote for Bernie type candidates. Vote for candidates that are honest about it and not those that are trying to fool American's like Obama.

I just, for once, want libs to be honest about it and tell us how much they want. Put that number out there in the public and let the public decide.

If the public wants to pay the price and the price is known then fine. I'll live with it and vote for people to repeal it.

The dishonesty about this issue is what bothers me (Gruber and Obama and his admin and supporters).
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 10:11 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24906 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:56 am to
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The ironic part of this is that other countries with far more socialistic programs have better life expectancy for less money. Lets not pretend we have some sort of great efficient system over here.


We're also the unhealthiest and most drug taking country in the world. Of course, other systems will not have the same success here. If you want to call them successes.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 11:02 am
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11852 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:44 pm to
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The ironic part of this is that other countries with far more socialistic programs have better life expectancy for less money. Lets not pretend we have some sort of great efficient system over here.




there are too many variables to make that simple statement that life expectancy is directly related to heath care.

the US has a fast food, obesity crisis. we eat more processed food, have near the highest work/stress relationship, work more hours per year then our European friends, and have higher rates of homicide and auto fatalities then most other countries as well.

this all plays in part to life expectancy

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