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re: Dreamers want "All 11 million" illegal aliens to be allowed to stay in the USA

Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:37 am to
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:37 am to
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I may just start calling ICE every time I encounter anyone that can't speak English that's obviously not just visting. You know they aren't am actual citizen cause they can't even speak the language.


So are you like a professional a-hole or something?

The US has no official language.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53545 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:38 am to
If the dreamers are deported the economy will collapse overnight!
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:40 am to
That number has been 11 million for the last 12 years. Something sounds fishy with that number...
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:41 am to
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If the dreamers are deported the economy will collapse overnight!


You are full of shite so that is why from now on I will refer to you as el turdo.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:43 am to
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So are you like a professional a-hole or something?

The US has no official language.



Posted by Ole Misdial
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:43 am to
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So are you like a professional a-hole or something? 

The US has no official language

I don't want people here illegally. I doubt you can go through citizenship processes without speaking at least some english. Allowing people to come illegally undermines the accomplishment of those that did it the right way.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:44 am to
The official language of America is American
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27407 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:45 am to
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If the dreamers are deported the economy will collapse overnight!


If that is the case, then they will obviously improve Mexico's economy overnight and in turn make it a better place where people actually want to remain...

Did your parents hold you under water for long periods of time?
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:47 am to
Many dreamers have found their niche and specialization here in America and work daily to make America great again. It would be like moving a tiger to the desert
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:48 am to
The need to go back.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:51 am to
We won't go back until you return our seven states.

Can we just give them California and move the 40 million there? Most are probably there already.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:53 am to
Many dreamers are finishing their degrees here or are necessary to their jobs

Not to mention many dreamers don't speak Spanish good. Going to Mexico would be a death sentence
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141619 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:01 pm to
Have some faith in your Mexican brothers. The won't kill these people who are just dreaming.

Why do you hate Mexico? Think of all the good these dreamers of good dreams can do for Mexico.

Make Mexico Great Again - not a bad idea
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:06 pm to
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Many dreamers are finishing their degrees here or are necessary to their jobs

Not to mention many dreamers don't speak Spanish good. Going to Mexico would be a death sentence




Just speaking for myself bro. I have sympathy for the so called dreamers I do, but that sympathy only extends so far when my good will is pushed to the limit by people who won't even fricking cooperate with the federal government and help deport FELONS. I mean do you ever EVER hear any of these DACA supporters say "you know wait a minute, maybe we should cooperate in getting rid of illegals who are you know actually harming people in exchange for the generosity the American people are willing to show those of us who are here because of our parent's choices?"

Sure they utter the standard bullshite "no one wants crimoinals here" but obviously they DO want criminals here or they would cooperate in removing them, but they don't . It's the same as with welfare. Maybe just maybe those of us who are on the right are being pushed further and further to the right because the left is never satisfied and never wants to oh I don't know say "hey maybe we need to crack down on people who are abusing the welfare system" or anything like that?

I'm just at the point now where I'm literally "frick the left, deport them all, every single one of them"

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89807 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Probably right but there's no way they're sent back.


You don't have to "send them back":

1. Jail their employers
2. Cut off the freebies
3. Tax THE shite out of remittances
4. No education in Spanish
5. End "sanctuary" bullshite/IDs/bank accounts, etc.
6. Make them feel uncomfortable/unwelcome

- Do all that and they will go home on their own.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24926 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:14 pm to
One of the problems we've had is that we don't know how many are here because they stay in the shadows. The people who want amnesty have a vested interest in giving a lowball figure, right? If the real number is 40 million, people would be horrified and would reject ANY kind of amnesty, especially since we've been told 11-12 million for so long.

So here's what we do - we take the 12 million number and say, "The first 12 million illegals that come out of the shadows will get a permanent work visa and will be able to stay, pay taxes, work, and do everything except vote (no citizenship), as long as they don't commit felonies."

EVERYONE else will get deported if caught. If you choose not to take this very generous offer, you will not get another chance. Then we see how many people sign up. If 25 million try to sign up, we'll have a better idea of how many are here. I would guess that the criminal aliens would not sign up - drug dealers, gang members, etc.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53545 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:20 pm to
When's the last time you deported a felon, tough guy?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:21 pm to
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Many dreamers have found their niche and specialization here in America and work daily to make America great again.


Then it's time for those Dreamers who have found their niche and specialization here in America to go back to the country they came from and make that country great.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67546 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:22 pm to
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Dreamers want

People in hell want ice water
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
53545 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:25 pm to
What if someone deported you back to potato famine Ireland or wherever your ancestors came from and expected you to succeed? That's basically what's happening to the dreamers
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