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re: LSU is not a rebuild. LSU hired O to avoid a rebuild.

Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:37 am to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:37 am to
It's sad I have but one upvote to give.

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any claim that O needs time to rebuild (in whatever manner the argument is posted) is complete and utter hogwash. one of, if not THE primary reasons that O was hired was to maintain continuity and talent (especially that recruiting class that apparently we could never live without, year after year).


Yup.

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any claim that Canada needs more time works against O, also, because basically the rest of his sales pitch was that in addition to continuity (aka, no rebuild), he would hire the best coordinators and they would keep the team rolling. so Canada (and whatever OC replaces him when he leaves) get 0 patience or waiting time because we were promised that we would have a top offense with a revolving door of OCs and there would never be a drop off in production. that is Ed's phil-O-sophy (And the same argument will apply to the D when Aranda leaves. O has no room for any mistakes in hiring coordinators since he is completely reliant on them)


I hammered most of the summer. The plan doesn't make sense unless O can routinely 1) Hire the very best coordinators nearly most likely every 1-2 years 2) Incorporate new philosophies very quickly

This whole idea that the THE PLAN is to constantly hire the best coordinators IS DUMB. There's no guiding philosophy, there's no single, strong vision leading them. We're just running a separate offense and defense, not an overall game plan.

There's a difference between a head coach where the plan is do control the game of football by doing x, y, and z and hiring coordinators that can help that vision - and having to do that frequently..... and planning to hire coordinators frequently as the basis of the plan.

It's mindboggling that people don't see that.

I still askk: What is O's vision for LSU football? How does he want to win games? How does he approach the game of football?
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 8:39 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:42 am to
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I hammered most of the summer. The plan doesn't make sense unless O can routinely 1) Hire the very best coordinators nearly most likely every 1-2 years 2) Incorporate new philosophies very quickly

excatly

O having no real ethos or philosophy is going to doom this team. like i posted saturday night, this is likely the apext of coaching talent and on-field talent that O will have at LSU. the odds that O ever has coordinators of the level of Aranda/Canada is very low. the odds he has that level of coaching talent WITH the personnel we have? essentially 0

Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:37 am to
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I still askk: What is O's vision for LSU football? How does he want to win games? How does he approach the game of football?
I want a spread offense, no I mean I want a power run game and dual threat qb, uhhh no I meant we need a pro style passer like every program I've been at, err maybe spread with power...derrrrr
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40231 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 2:04 pm to
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The plan doesn't make sense unless O can routinely 1) Hire the very best coordinators nearly most likely every 1-2 years 2) Incorporate new philosophies very quickly


Very well said. Some O supporters are going to argue that Canada needs time. But we'll have that issue every year or two. Between the two coordinators someone will leave just about every year.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
17079 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 6:06 am to
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I hammered most of the summer. The plan doesn't make sense unless O can routinely 1) Hire the very best coordinators nearly most likely every 1-2 years 2) Incorporate new philosophies very quickly This whole idea that the THE PLAN is to constantly hire the best coordinators IS DUMB. There's no guiding philosophy, there's no single, strong vision leading them. We're just running a separate offense and defense, not an overall game plan. There's a difference between a head coach where the plan is do control the game of football by doing x, y, and z and hiring coordinators that can help that vision - and having to do that frequently..... and planning to hire coordinators frequently as the basis of the plan. It's mindboggling that people don't see that. I still askk: What is O's vision for LSU football? How does he want to win games? How does he approach the game of football?


Good points. Want to see a vision?

HERE is when LSU was led by a clear and coherent vision and message from the top.

LINK

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