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Is this a baited field , OB?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:10 pm
Farmer that my friend is leasing a blind from has the field empty right now. He is planting Milo in it for crawfish to feed on. He is going to leave the crop in the field and cut them out a hole to throw decoys.. I know it's legal to leave the crop in the field and flood it. But is it legal to cut out a hole?
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:23 pm to BobDobalina
Has to be normal agricultural practices. So even if they would walk out to their decoys and smash down vegetation, could be baiting.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:58 pm to BobDobalina
It is illegal. Is considered crop manipulation. Is legal for doves. Is illegal for waterfowl. Is Baiting.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:07 pm to BobDobalina
Definitely baited. Manipulating the crop in anyway that isn't a harvest or associated with a harvest is illegal.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:12 pm to dwr353
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It is illegal
Yep. Farmer gonna get your friend in a shitload of trouble.
eta, I wonder if it would be legal for the farmer to just so a really bad job of planting the milo in a an area or two. I mean, I see poorly planted/growing spots in fields all the time.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 8/26/17 at 6:02 pm to BobDobalina
Who cares. We dump chopped corn out and hunt it. If u wana good hunt u gota feed the birds
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:49 pm to Chuker
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I wonder if it would be legal for the farmer to just so a really bad job of planting the milo in a an area or two. I mean, I see poorly planted/growing spots in fields all the time.
You mean just not seeding an area well? I think it would be hard to prove that he did it on purpose in that case.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:53 pm to Cowboyfan89
If he does not plant and leaves an open area you are good.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:46 pm to Cowboyfan89
we always buffalo a hole in the rice field for teal. green jeans knows and never said nothing to us
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:51 pm to mack the knife
Is it just stubble though? Most likely. We buffalo our teal ponds right after we flood for second crop.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:00 pm to mack the knife
A lot of people buffalo stubble. But if you buffalo rice with heads--not legal.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:02 pm to jimbeam
To a federal game warden... EVERYTHING is baiting.
Talked to one a while back that cited hunters for poaching that would hunt a pond a half a mile from another pond that they baited for the ducks.
Talked to one a while back that cited hunters for poaching that would hunt a pond a half a mile from another pond that they baited for the ducks.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:19 pm to BobDobalina
When is said farmer planting the milo? If in the fall, I doubt it will head our before frost. If that's the case, Not baiting IMO.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:22 pm to omegaman66
Yes. IIRC The regs are written a little ambiguously to give the wardens some room to make judgment calls. Baiting birds to an "area" may be as illegal as baiting them to your specific pond in some cases.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:37 pm to BobDobalina
So is everybody that hunts a standing corn field, which has a small harvested area in front of the blind (as in the cut corn was removed from the field), hunting over a baited field even though some minimal amount of corn might be knocked down while retrieving ducks?
If so, the Missouri Department of Conservation is conducting draw hunts on baited fields!!!! So disappointed
If so, the Missouri Department of Conservation is conducting draw hunts on baited fields!!!! So disappointed
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:17 pm to Canard Gris
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So is everybody that hunts a standing corn field, which has a small harvested area in front of the blind (as in the cut corn was removed from the field), hunting over a baited field even though some minimal amount of corn might be knocked down while retrieving ducks?
As in harvested?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:23 pm to Cowboyfan89
As in a small area in front of the blind was harvested and the cut corn in this small area was removed from the field. The majority of the corn in the field was left standing in the field and not manipulated
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:32 pm to Canard Gris
I've hunted a good bit in SEMO at Duck Creek & Otter Slough, WMA and the corn has been harvested prior to the season, but there is still plenty of food regardless of wade & shoot or designated field blind.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:43 pm to mingoswamp
I do not have any experience at either of those Conservation Areas. My time has been spent on the western side of the state. I will say that the MDC should put on a clinic for other states to view how public resources can be cared for.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:06 pm to jimbeam
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Yes. IIRC The regs are written a little ambiguously to give the wardens some room to make judgment calls. Baiting birds to an "area" may be as illegal as baiting them to your specific pond in some cases.
Agreed. But I tell you what if I was in a lease and we had three places to hunt separated by 1/2 freaking mile from each other and we as a club left one for the birds never hunted as a sanctuary and even put out feed for them and then got busted for hunting over bait when I am a half a mile away I would not be a happy camper.
When game laws atart "getting" people that are actually trying to follow the law then things are too complicated!
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