re: Hannigriff "How much will LSU's offense improve in 3rd scrimmage?"

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Take away Key, Aranda, and Guice and what do we really have?

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So take away a first rounder on each side of the ball and the best defensive coordinator in all of college football? How fricking stupid.

Just like every single preseason that I can recall...some people are realistic, optimistic, and pessimistic. It's all subjective at this point. Things will become more granular come September.

Dude that's almost every team. At least we have 2 sure fire All Americans, not every team can say that right now. So if or when we have more break out like Chark, Clyde, Moreau, Drake, Sullivan we will be considered stacked. You don't need a team full of big time stars to win games. All you need are players who can do thier jobs and have the physical tools you would need to create match up problems. LSU absolutely has that.

I think Ducre will play a good bit in this offense and can be effective. We have big tall TEs and WRs for 3rd down or Redzone plays. We have a QB who is good with the ball.

They will need to put it all together but other than that I'm not worried. We have the athletes to compete with anyone. You guys are going to see when it's put on the field. Our defense is loaded with future NFL talent and I mean loaded. Defense is going to be nasty this year. Aranda loves this place.

Well we can build it up to a really special team but just because you have 5*s all over the place doesn't mean you have a team. You need to play as a team so I rather have guys how can do their jobs correctly, and have plenty of size and speed. We aren't like most teams, I just said that most teams don't have 2 All Americans to start the year. All Americans are made not listed. Lists change every year.

I mean we'll see but I look at this LSU team and i see the least amount of talent as we've had in quite awhile. I would even say a couple of the Dinardo teams had fewer question marks than we do this year.

I hope you're right, i really do.

There's no doubt that we need to stock pile talent but we have enough this year to make the team go. Our offense isn't really installed yet and we ran rough shot on this great defense. They install new things everyday, so we'll see what this last scrimmage looks like. It should be the best look at our offense. But I still wouldn't pay much attention to these stats good or bad.

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Guice, Chark, Dillion, Gage, Moore, Moreau, Ducre, Carter, Pettigrew, Washington, Sullivan, Drake, Clyde Edwards, Williams, are all extremly talented athletes

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every player we have is talented or they wouldn't be at an SEC school.

I'm talking talented in terms of taking us where we want to go. Of that group, only Guice is a sure thing. You need more than that to expect to seriously contend.

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assume the offense is horrible until the team proves it isn't.

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But, but, but Les and Cam are gone, we are as talented as anyone not named Alabama, and our OC is the best.

It's funny to watch those goal post jumping around.

I think half possibly more in this list will play in the NFL. But like I said you don't need a team full of NFL stars to be a championship team. The 2007 team had some extremly talented college football players but didn't do much in the NFL. We had some decent offensive seasons in the years that they were here though. I just don't understand what you're saying here. We have an offense which can compete with anyone with the right scheme. I believe now have that. If they can put it all together we will have a great year this year. Again talent isn't what we were lacking. We were lacking the scheme with which to take advantage of all their individual talents. We are going to surprise people this year.

No, what you said was just fricking stupid. LSU also has many other play makers on both sides of the ball. Several future NFL draft picks on both sides.