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re: BYU Defensive Breakdown
Posted on 8/15/17 at 6:42 pm to Bosethus68
Posted on 8/15/17 at 6:42 pm to Bosethus68
I don't know 1 BYU fan that has said we are on par or have a similar defense to LSU. So your initial comment is odd.
I do believe we will be much tougher than most of you here think. We lost 4 games last year by a combined 8 points.
Last year was a completely new coaching staff across the board with a terrible O and D line. Both units will be improved but it'll take a couple recruiting classes to get where we need to be.
Your RBs will be the best we see this season. Our hope is that with all the issues on your Oline that we can get pressure in the backfield, but either way Guice will get his.
We are expecting a big jump from year 1 to year 2 as players know their assignments much better.
We started 2 Freshmen at corners last year and they did well but our injury ridden DLine didn't pressure enough. We were #2 in the country at creating turnovers though. And as noted earlier we gave up a lot of yardage in the middle of the field last year but yardage isn't points, we only gave up 19 PPG.
We'll have the advantage at QB, Mangum is an elite QB, he was the co-MVP at the elite 11 with Jamis Winston. He played very well as a true freshman forced into the lineup after an injury to the starter after being back only a few months from his LDS mission. And he was able to really learn the new offense last year while playing behind a 5th year senior.
We also get a week 0 game against Portland St as a tune up so we are hoping you'll have some first game issues we can take advantage of.
I'm still thinking it'll be a shorter game with a lot of running. BYU 17 - LSU 14
I do believe we will be much tougher than most of you here think. We lost 4 games last year by a combined 8 points.
Last year was a completely new coaching staff across the board with a terrible O and D line. Both units will be improved but it'll take a couple recruiting classes to get where we need to be.
Your RBs will be the best we see this season. Our hope is that with all the issues on your Oline that we can get pressure in the backfield, but either way Guice will get his.
We are expecting a big jump from year 1 to year 2 as players know their assignments much better.
We started 2 Freshmen at corners last year and they did well but our injury ridden DLine didn't pressure enough. We were #2 in the country at creating turnovers though. And as noted earlier we gave up a lot of yardage in the middle of the field last year but yardage isn't points, we only gave up 19 PPG.
We'll have the advantage at QB, Mangum is an elite QB, he was the co-MVP at the elite 11 with Jamis Winston. He played very well as a true freshman forced into the lineup after an injury to the starter after being back only a few months from his LDS mission. And he was able to really learn the new offense last year while playing behind a 5th year senior.
We also get a week 0 game against Portland St as a tune up so we are hoping you'll have some first game issues we can take advantage of.
I'm still thinking it'll be a shorter game with a lot of running. BYU 17 - LSU 14
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 7:01 pm to Trent S
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I do believe we will be much tougher than most of you here think.
From what I've seen...Most LSU fans think the game is gonna be fairly close. I haven't seen many think it's gonna be a cakewalk or blowout. Maybe you just want to be pissed before the game
Posted on 8/15/17 at 7:05 pm to Trent S
Love your optimism, but, no.
If BYU can run, it has a shot, but you just aren't gonna run on LSU. Once you become 1-dimensional, it is over.
I promise you, BYU has not seen the likes of LSU's edge rushers and overall speed on defense.
Now, LSU's offense may take a bit to crank up, but Derrius Guice will not get bottled up the whole game.
LSU 27-13.
If BYU can run, it has a shot, but you just aren't gonna run on LSU. Once you become 1-dimensional, it is over.
I promise you, BYU has not seen the likes of LSU's edge rushers and overall speed on defense.
Now, LSU's offense may take a bit to crank up, but Derrius Guice will not get bottled up the whole game.
LSU 27-13.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 7:05 pm to Trent S
All I need to know is that UT longhorns had two straight years to prep for and beat an underdog BYU team and neither game was in jeopardy from the starting gun - longhorns were completely outplayed and physically whipped up and down the field. Yes, that's the crappy soft Longhorns - same teams that took OU down to the wire in Dallas both years. The fact that our boys are younger and less experienced except for a few key guys makes for a leveling of the playing field. We are known to "stall" on good drives - hoping for a big change with the new offense - but that same new offense is probably more susceptible to motion penalties and missed assignments..... Comes with the territory, especially with less experienced guys. I expect BYU to give us a very tough physical game and hope that our boys play their best and just to home with a victory whether it's 3 points or 30 - i feel worse about this game than Oregon 2-3 years ago.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 7:20 pm to Trent S
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LSU 14
If you're banking on this, I feel sorry for you.
I expect a competitive game but BYU has shown nothing to warrant this type of defensive performance away from Provo against a team with the weapons LSU has.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:01 pm to Trent S
Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:17 pm to Trent S
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We'll have the advantage at QB, Mangum is an elite QB,
I'm not so sure about that. Mangum has struggled against legit defenses. Against Michigan and Utah, he had a 42.9% and 44.6% completetion rate with a combined 3 INT and 2 TDs.
He had a good completion % against Boise State, UCLA, and Nebraska, but had 3 INT to 4 TDs.
I wouldn't crown him elite, or better than Etling
Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:42 pm to Trent S
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We'll have the advantage at QB, Mangum is an elite QB, he was the co-MVP at the elite 11 with Jamis Winston. He played very well as a true freshman forced into the lineup after an injury to the starter after being back only a few months from his LDS mission. And he was able to really learn the new offense last year while playing behind a 5th year senior.
Yeah, we played the Heisman winning QB last season:
10/27 for 153 yards and 26 carries for 33 yards (1.3 ypc). Aranda, the mad scientist has literally been formulating a defensive plan for BYU since he got on the plane after the Louisville game. I'm not exaggerating. I'd hate to be the team he faces after a whole off season to prepare.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:57 pm to Trent S
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hope is that with all the issues on your Oline that we can get pressure in the backfield
I keep hearing these issues with our OL as some kind of advantage for BYU? You guys will be very surprised if you expect issues from our OL because there aren't any issues with the starting 5. The issue are with depth and I'm not real sure that it's an issue at all for this first game. The issue that Orgeron is speaking of is more about the middle to end of the SEC schedule. I mean you could say every team has issues if you start losing your starters, so I wouldn't count on a weak OL as some type of advantage. GT
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:30 pm to Trent S
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I'm still thinking it'll be a shorter game with a lot of running. BYU 17 - LSU 14
I want what you are smoking.
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