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re: Chris Sale AL MVP chances
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:42 pm to The Seaward
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:42 pm to The Seaward
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WAR isn’t perfect, but no stat is. And it is much more robust and scientific than “a pitcher can’t be MVP”. And I’m fine if someone chooses Altuve. I don’t really think there is a wrong answer between Altuve and Sale-- other than Altuve should get it because a pitcher can’t win it unless he wins 30 games and has a sub 1 ERA.
The reason why the tradition exists is because its intuitive.
I will take Altuve out of the argument.
In the ALDS who would you rather have in isolation-Trout or Sale?
Sale might, stress might pitch 2 games in a 5 game series. Randy Johnson in 2001 NLDS threw 1 game. The guy who threw a CG SO a 7 inning game and then came back and threw 1.1 innings in the WS only threw in 1 game in the ALDS-why because hes a starting pitcher and thats how it works. The likelihood of Sale throwing 2 complete games is next to nil.
So sale for a max of 14 innings or Trout for a guaranteed 45. Its not a hard answer. Thats why there is MVP and the Cy Young.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 5:43 pm
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:44 pm to Adam Banks
I could easily raise you Madison Bumgarner, circa 2014.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:48 pm to Adam Banks
quote:in how many of those innings does trout have nearly as much impact as sale? The amount of impact that trout has on the game is minimized if he gets nothing from anyone else. He can get as many hits as he wants, can steal as many bases as he wants, but he is only directly involved in those plays in 3 or 4 innings every game and is dependent on whether or not his teammates can bring him in or get on base so he can bring them in
So sale for a max of 14 innings or Trout for a guaranteed 45. Its not a hard answer.
I don't think that pitchers should win the MVP, but not because they don't have as much impact as positional players. The amount they have on any single game is equal to the amount that other players have on the other games in between starts
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