re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?

You guys are all missing the point. Saban, Miles, Orgeron, any competent head coach can bring a program to it's potential, if allowed to do so.

You talk about the coach, but like the saying every good man has a good woman behind him, every good coach has the right administration backing him up.

What did Saban do? Here's what- he came here when Mark Emmert was able to break the Good Ol Boy network, and he ran shite the way HE wanted to, not the way a bunch of rich booster fricks wanted him to. And by being able to do what he wanted, the way he wanted to, he stabilized the program and pushed it way into the positive side of things.
And then, he left.

And Miles came in, and Saban's title and the things he set up were good, and bought Miles a little room to breathe. And what did Miles do? He elevated LSU from a good ranked program, to an elite program. Took things to a level where 8 wins and a minor bowl is a disaster, and 9 or "just" 10 wins still ain't good enough.
But Miles stayed too long, and the Good Ol Boys got their claws back into things. And they started tearing shite up, because it wasn't being run the way they wanted it.
Seriously- the outrage over losing a National Title game, after he went and won us another title? Keep in mind, prior to Saban's title, it had been 50 yrs since we sniffed a shot at the title... Saban AND Miles each won one.
And the final straw... Miles wouldn't hire and fire the assistant coaches others told him to, so they fired him. Oh, the HORROR of it all, the gall of Miles to do that. I'm sure Saban would go along with boosters and the AD telling him who his assistants should be.

So now, we got a loyal yes-man in O. He doesn't need to have a good record coming in (even approaching .500), because he'll take the job for a few million less than the others get, because "he loves LSU. He's one of us."
Hell, the head coach isn't even important, it's the coordinators... RIGHT? That's the way to win. That's how the other major programs do it. Alabama will rue the day they let Kirby Smart and Lane Kiffen get away.