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LSU in top 25 nationally combining athletics and academics per Forbes

Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:41 am
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:41 am
Geaux Tigers

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Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:44 am to
I love lists like these, bc Alabama is NEVER on them
Posted by PhillyFan1994
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:45 am to
i guess I will go ahead and supply the unpopular opinion that Alabama should be on the list. They are almost always ranked higher than LSU academically (Please don't mention specific programs LSU is better at. Alabama is ranked higher as a whole). Also, Alabama's football team is probably the most dominant team in all of the three major college sports (at least recently).
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:48 am to
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Alabama's football team is probably the most dominant team in all of the three major college sports

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Please don't mention specific programs
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:48 am to


Les Miles

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Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:50 am to
I meant specific academic programs, not athletic. I was sure someone would say "LSU has a better XYZ program than Alabama" to call into question whether or not they are truly deserving of a higher ranking academically.
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:55 am to
quote:

i guess I will go ahead and supply the unpopular opinion that Alabama should be on the list. They are almost always ranked higher than LSU academically (Please don't mention specific programs LSU is better at. Alabama is ranked higher as a whole). Also, Alabama's football team is probably the most dominant team in all of the three major college sports (at least recently).


This is correct. What Saban has been able to do there, not just athletically, but helping increase OOS enrollment and the correlation with improved programs has been incredible.
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:56 am to
This must be heavily weighted to the athletics side of the equation.
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:57 am to
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 10:37 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:57 am to
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Les Miles


The article mentions nothing of that imbecile.
Posted by eelsuee
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:58 am to
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They are almost always ranked higher than LSU academically


Maybe Forbes is using the most important metric, they are money people by the way.
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 9:58 am to
He was calling you a hypocrite. Forbes methodology looked at athletics as a whole and academics as a whole. You said you didn't want to hear about anyone cherry-picking specific academic programs when comparing LSU to Alabama, and then proceeded to single out Alabama football.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:00 am to
Be careful now, speaking the truth about Saban will get you branded a Saban lover on here. I never could understand why some on here just can't admit that Saban is the best coach in college football right now and possibly the best of all time. I don't like him but I can admit that he's the best.
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:04 am to
I understand but Alabama football has been almost incomparably dominant compared to any other Big 3 program in a way that I feel makes it of higher importance to this list. And they have other sports programs that have been nationally relevant as well. They have the second most SEC baseball championships behind LSU. I'm not saying they should be higher than LSU on this list but if University of Denver could make it I don't see why they shouldn't.
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:08 am to
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Maybe Forbes is using the most important metric, they are money people by the way.


I understand Forbes is a magazine primarily concerned with financial matters and which schools produce the highest salaries is certainly a factor to consider but that is not the only metric of importance when talking about the "Best academic schools". Class sizes, incoming freshman test scores, faculty prestige and a host of other factors come into play and Alabama as a whole has ranked higher than LSU when considering these factors (for one reason or another).
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:10 am to
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I understand but Alabama football has been almost incomparably dominant compared to any other Big 3 program in a way that I feel makes it of higher importance to this list. And they have other sports programs that have been nationally relevant as well. They have the second most SEC baseball championships behind LSU. I'm not saying they should be higher than LSU on this list but if University of Denver could make it I don't see why they shouldn't.

And this is why I love the fact that Alabama doesn't make the list, because it draws idiots to melt like this. Just because Alabama has a dominant football program, doesn't mean they are one of the best schools in the country. Academically (overall), they're average. Athletically (overall), they're below average. Why can't you accept that???
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:11 am to
"I'm a Tulane alum"

LINK
Posted by PhillyFan1994
Member since Sep 2012
2032 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:13 am to
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"I'm a Tulane alum"


What does this have to do with anything? Lol
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:16 am to
People underestimate LSU as an overall research institution.
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2470 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:25 am to
You missed the point of the list. The number of national championships used to qualify for the list was not just football, it was all sports, male and female. The Forbes list is about being diverse, and offering a chance to succeed academically while competing in multiple sports that encompass a wide variety of athletes.
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