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Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:27 am to Machine
I appreciate what JBE did last week. He called the legislature on the carpet by sending them a letter in advance telling them he is welcome to hear any ideas they may have to avoid the fiscal cliff. The legislature has done nothing but obstruct, they have zero ideas and the only thing they have as a comeback is "those who elected me don't want me to raise taxes". They are taking advantage of an uninformed electorate, an electorate who relies on the very programs they want to cut. They are only voted for because of their stance on guns and abortion (which the state legislature cant make a huge impact on these issues).
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:29 am to I B Freeman
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I see the state as the citizens in the state. You see it as the government just like JBE does. You want government preserved and expanding regardless of the cost to taxpayers.
Agreed. But we the citizens are responsible for the government we get. You can blame feckless Republicans for voting for JBE over Vitter all you want. The ugly truth is that due to CONSTITUTIONAL spending restraints, the governor and the legislature are boxed in because so much is protected and MUST be funded appropriately. Therefore the problems are structral and any governor of either party will be faced with the same problems.
I don't see the Republicans in the legislature coming up with any real solutions other than raising sales taxes. You won't go for higher income taxes, you won't repeal the stupidity that is the homestead exemption (in its current form). The state cannot tax the oil and gas coming in from offshore.
You will say cut, but where? State film tax credits...great, all for it, but that is a pittance .
Call a fricking state Constitutional Convention, reform the tax code, scrap all these stupid amendments to the state Constitution.
Come on dude give specifics.....don't be like every other so called conservative Republican who talks in the abstract but really has no clue as to how to actually get things done.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:30 am to TheHumanTornado
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welcome to hear any ideas they may have to avoid the fiscal cliff.
The cliff is preferable to the taxes JBE wants.
The leges, simple minded as they are, asked the head administrator of state operations to recommend cut and he would not---that person, of course, is the Governor and his stooge Dardenne.
I will put you down as favoring Government over the tax paying citizens.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:35 am to I B Freeman
You make very good points that are immediately negated by the assumptions you are making. I am completely fine with the idea of not raising taxes, however I also am realistic about the state that I live in and a large amount of conservative voters rely on the programs that they vote against. Its a fear tactic by the right, they play the morality/gun card and reap the rewards.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:38 am to I B Freeman
quote:saying JBE inherited a shite situation from a shite governor and shite legislature doesn't mean i care about gov't than people.
Can you point to any stance you have taken on this thread that would lead anyone to believe otherwise?
that's about the line of thinking i would expect from a Trumpanzee
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:50 am to TheHumanTornado
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Its a fear tactic by the right, they play the morality/gun card and reap the rewards.
What? You don't realize that JBE wants to come and get yer guns....he does because he's a Democrat and some guy on talk radio said so and Wayne LaPierre said so as well. Until we can make sure that we get to keep our guns and ammo nothing else matters....
We need to protect the babies!!!!! Never mind that a very large segment of the people actually getting abortions tend to be white middle to upper middle class women who vote Republican.....have seen it with my own eyes.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:51 am to KiwiHead
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You will say cut, but where? State film tax credits...great, all for it, but that is a pittance .
End the cash subsidies to all businesses--live music, digital media, any refundable and transferrable tax credit.
Close LED and end the incentives there.
I say take the higher institutions private and use the money we are spending to today as vouchers to Louisiana citizens for higher education and let the schools fight over it. (This is in lieu of trying to get the leges to actually consolidate schools which they will never do but is obviously needed. This will also take thousands of employees off the state retirement system that cost us so much. Brick and mortar schools have seen their best days and will increasly be a chain around taxpayer's neck as schools like Purdue make huge investments in online education (they bought out Kaplan))).
Curtail the responsibilities of the Department of Agriculture. Their enforcement of arcane laws concerning feed, seed and fertilizer are out dated and unneeded in our system of tort today. We don't, for example, have a army of bureaucrats verifying computer speeds but we do have one verifying animal feed proteins. How does that logic work?
Eliminate the budget of the Lt. Governor to the point the office only pays for his in state travel, salary and a secretary. End the tourism budget---it is only a way to bribe the media the politicians need to grease.
Move tomorrow to guaranteed contribution retirement plans for all state workers under age 35 and end guaranteed benefit plans for these workers.
Eliminate the Department of Insurance.
If we are to keep LSU a public institution then make them cut top staff by 50%. Generally when they cut the bigwigs keep their pay and perks and it is the instructors that get cut.
Cut the legislature's pay 50%---they will get out of town quicker that way. We really should cut it so much that no one serves as a representative as their primary means of income. They are already too sensitive to lobbyist and PAC contributions. We need a wealthier group of people in the leges. DEMS and REP just so they will be more honest.
We can cut the film credit cash outlays now set at $180 million per year to $20 million and save $160 million with no skin off a single taxpayer's arse.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:52 am to I B Freeman
Is $8.50 really that crazy?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:54 am to Machine
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saying JBE inherited a shite situation from a shite governor and shite legislature
You will not describe that situation.
You obviously like that JBE raised taxes to preserve and grow government.
He simple acceptance of the Obama medicaid expansion put us on the hook for millions.
I prefer the situation that existed the day before JBE took office to the situation of higher taxes and less income for the people that exists today.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:57 am to NIH
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Is $8.50 really that crazy?
Minimum wage laws hurt the poor and keep people from taking jobs
Why would anyone want to tell a poor person they could not work for $5 an hour if that was the only job available to them?? Cruel.
Why are you so cruel?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:05 am to I B Freeman
So, nothing of substance?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:10 am to I B Freeman
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End the cash subsidies to all businesses--live music, digital media, any refundable and transferrable tax credit.
I'm good with that
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Department of Agriculture.
OK but end the stupid subsidies to the dairy farmers.
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Lt. Governor
Who is the Lt Governor? Does he even matter anymore?
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Eliminate the Department of Insurance.
I actually think Donelon does a good job and keeps the fricks at the insurance companies in check so long as we don't have tort reform....trust me, the insurance companies are fricks
As to LSU
....either you want an educated populace or you don't and sometimes I think the Republicans and many Democrats want to keep as many under educated people in the state as possible....I would like it if the legislature made it a little easier for people to go to college and gave a little more money. A lot of you guys feel as if it is a good idea to starve higher education
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:16 am to NIH
On what issue?
I posted real cuts to the budget.
I posted about the cruelty of the minimum wage.
BTW the governor knows unions have a lot of campaign money and many union wage contracts have automatic increases built in them tied to minimum wage.
I posted real cuts to the budget.
I posted about the cruelty of the minimum wage.
BTW the governor knows unions have a lot of campaign money and many union wage contracts have automatic increases built in them tied to minimum wage.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:17 am to KiwiHead
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stupid subsidies to the dairy farmers.
Nothing from the state goes to this.
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Who is the Lt Governor? Does he even matter anymore?
He has the tourism budget under his control.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:24 am to KiwiHead
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I actually think Donelon does a good job and keeps the fricks at the insurance companies in check so long as we don't have tort reform....trust me, the insurance companies are fricks
Uhh the role of the insurance department should be much smaller and should simply be to certify that insurance companies have the financial wherewithal to handle the risk they take in the state. Tort as you mention can handle the rest.
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As to LSU
....either you want an educated populace or you don't
Typical all or nothing response. If you think brick and mortar schools have a long future as they are you are wrong. Some will remain but will be much different. Some will have to close and unfortunately some are already unneeded and kept open by political pressure.
When an institution with the respect of Purdue buys a major online educator like Kaplan times are changing. Purdue will be able to bring world class education to the living room at a fraction of the cost a family will spend to send a kid to LSU.
We will do a MUCH better job of have an educated populace when embrace efficiency and cost of education. Cost of education and cost of LSU are certainly not the same thing.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:28 am to KiwiHead
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....either you want an educated populace or you don't and sometimes I think the Republicans and many Democrats want to keep as many under educated people in the state as possible....I would like it if the legislature made it a little easier for people to go to college and gave a little more money. A lot of you guys feel as if it is a good idea to starve higher education
One can cut waste without "starving" higher education. TOPS is a welfare program. It used to be an incentive to keep the best and brightest from leaving LA. Now, just about any dipshit who does marginally well in HS can get it and when they flunk out after a year or two in college that money is a sunk cost with no ROI.
Yes, an educated populous is desirable. But at what cost? Hell, just along the 10/12 corridor there are SEVEN (7) four-year universities: SLU, UNO, SUBR, SUNO, LSU, ULL, McNeese. Is that really necessary? seven colleges in a span of roughly 275 miles?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:49 am to Alt26
You forgot LSU E ....2 year but why is it there anyway.
I don't like TOPS because it has drifted so far from the original intent of the old Taylor Plan. I personally know a lot of upper middle class families that avail themselves of the TOPS program. Originally it was for poorer kids with decent to good grades who would have otherwise not have been able to go to college.
I don't like TOPS because it has drifted so far from the original intent of the old Taylor Plan. I personally know a lot of upper middle class families that avail themselves of the TOPS program. Originally it was for poorer kids with decent to good grades who would have otherwise not have been able to go to college.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:56 am to Bison
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better he tax business more than me! the stake is broke as frick. the money has to come from somewhere. By the way, he not going to bankrupt mom and pop business. I'm sure there a threshold on business income on where taxing will begin.
Lol, yeah that's why mom and pops are closing down all over the state. Some of these places can't take the tax hikes and increase in insurance premiums. While they give breaks to the lenders that are only on the hook for pennies compared to the mom and pops that now can't pay back the loans.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:07 pm to KiwiHead
The things needing to be done in La will take more than 4 years to complete.
- Rewrite the LA Constitution
- End State Income Tax
- Introduce ISD systems in the state
- Allow private entity to install Toll Roads and fix highways NOW. Infrastructure needs to get back up to par.
- Remove Corporate Tax.
- Slash All High-Ed in half. Leave UNO/LSU/ULL/ULM/LaTech as the main schools. Even that seems to be too much imo.
You need to fix the law first. Then you fix the homes by allowing jobs to come back to LA. In order to get jobs back in LA you need infrastructure and an educated/willing workforce.
Try to diversify your economy so you are not at the mercy of O & G.
Just copy Texas ffs.
- Rewrite the LA Constitution
- End State Income Tax
- Introduce ISD systems in the state
- Allow private entity to install Toll Roads and fix highways NOW. Infrastructure needs to get back up to par.
- Remove Corporate Tax.
- Slash All High-Ed in half. Leave UNO/LSU/ULL/ULM/LaTech as the main schools. Even that seems to be too much imo.
You need to fix the law first. Then you fix the homes by allowing jobs to come back to LA. In order to get jobs back in LA you need infrastructure and an educated/willing workforce.
Try to diversify your economy so you are not at the mercy of O & G.
Just copy Texas ffs.
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