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re: When did the German soldiers of WWII realize they were the 'bad guys'?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:55 pm to geaux88
Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:55 pm to geaux88
You've constructed an entire catch-phrase persona of me that is nowhere near reality, and for what purpose? So you don't have to think about your default position in favor of TOTAL WAR DESTRUCTION THAT DOESNT EVEN HAVE TO BE ARGUED FOR!!! Rawr America frick yeah
You're missing the point.
Frick SJWs AND people who have no compunction about civilian casualties
Stop trying to box people in. It's thoughtless.
You're missing the point.
Frick SJWs AND people who have no compunction about civilian casualties
Stop trying to box people in. It's thoughtless.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:57 pm to uway
You got owned. Quit while you are only 5 feet deep. LOL.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:57 pm to geaux88
You've traveled the world in service of the republic yet you talk like a 15 year old.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 5:58 pm to mofungoo
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After the Battle of the Bulge they knew. They were the meat in a USA - Russian sandwich and in full retreat.
Knowing they are on the losing end doesnt equal knowing they are bad guys
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:00 pm to Undertow
Both of my wife's grandfathers served as German soldiers during World War 2 and it is not like they really had a choice. You were essentially forced to become a member of the Nazi Party and a soldier. So whether or not you are on the right side of history most people will fight for their homeland. There were attempts to kill Hitler from the mid 30's to the end of the war so it was known he was evil ,but the mistake that the Government made with Hitler is they tried to appease him by making him Chancellor and he turned into a dictator.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:01 pm to uway
I talk like a 15 year old... mayhaps... but it obviously got your attention. Cheers sir... I wish for you a peaceful evening of happiness and fulfillment of your dreams.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:03 pm to stelly1025
Wasn't Hitler democratically elected by a larger majority than any American President?
And I've heard first hand accounts of the human leather lamp shades.
And I've heard first hand accounts of the human leather lamp shades.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:12 pm to Bullfrog
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Wasn't Hitler democratically elected by a larger majority than any American President?
No the NAZI party was the largest in the Reichstag ,but still not the majority. Coalitions were formed and a deal was cut.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:12 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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You have to remember the ideology that Hitler spread. He galvanized that nation like no one ever really has in such a short time. That alone distorts one's view.
Hitler and Goebbels were extremely good propagandists.
As any competent political consultant today knows, all you have to do is feed people's fears and you can drum up an army of voters for your cause.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:13 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:16 pm to AUCE05
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They weren't "bad" until they lost. Victor writes history.
Are people this dumb, or just not good at sarcasm ?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:19 pm to Ash Williams
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Before the Nazis adopted it, the swastika was a symbol that basically meant "good luck" or "well-being"
but I probably shouldnt be responding rationally to a LucasP post
You think he was serious?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:19 pm to ChewyDante
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The typical German soldiers didn't view themselves as bad guys at all, even after the war was over.
Yeah. Running through Poland, Belgium, France, and Russia machine gunning down men, women and children. Pretty easy not to figure out you're not the bad guy. ??
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:30 pm to Ole War Skule
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Yeah. Running through Poland, Belgium, France, and Russia machine gunning down men, women and children. Pretty easy not to figure out you're not the bad guy. ??
They were soldiers doing their duty and serving their country you are viewing it wrong. Of course they knew they were on the wrong side of history ,but we are not blameless when it comes to WW2 either. The Treaty of Versailles that ended WW1 essentially crippled Germany to the point it brought an uprising of the NAZI Party. The fricked up part of it was that Germany did not start WW1 Austria did and the other fricked up part is Hitler himself was not German ,but Austrian.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:31 pm to Undertow
The mind boggling stupidness in this thread is scary.
German soldiers committed atrocity after atrocity throughout Europe. Same as the Japanese did in China, the Philippines and throughout Asia. They left their homeland to conquer a continent and kill every person who stood in the way of their conquest. These were EVIL people. No different from gangstas on the streets of New Orleans or Hitler himself. Giving the average soldier a 'pass' because he was too young, ignorant, or brainwashed to understand that killing millions of innocent people is wrong puts those giving the 'pass' next in line to commit the same atrocities.
Individuals are responsible for their actions. German (and Japanese) soldiers were as guilty as their dictators. Not holding them responsible invites the history to repeat itself.
50-80 million dead from their actions probably have a different view.
You apologists disgust me.
German soldiers committed atrocity after atrocity throughout Europe. Same as the Japanese did in China, the Philippines and throughout Asia. They left their homeland to conquer a continent and kill every person who stood in the way of their conquest. These were EVIL people. No different from gangstas on the streets of New Orleans or Hitler himself. Giving the average soldier a 'pass' because he was too young, ignorant, or brainwashed to understand that killing millions of innocent people is wrong puts those giving the 'pass' next in line to commit the same atrocities.
Individuals are responsible for their actions. German (and Japanese) soldiers were as guilty as their dictators. Not holding them responsible invites the history to repeat itself.
50-80 million dead from their actions probably have a different view.
You apologists disgust me.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:38 pm to Ole War Skule
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The mind boggling stupidness in this thread is scary.
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Ole War Skule
You just contributed to it.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:56 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I think they had a sense there was some wrong, but likely had no idea scale. I thought I saw something were they made Nazi sympathizer tour concentration camps to see what they were a part of.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:56 pm to Ole War Skule
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The mind boggling stupidness in this thread is scary. German soldiers committed atrocity after atrocity throughout Europe. Same as the Japanese did in China, the Philippines and throughout Asia. They left their homeland to conquer a continent and kill every person who stood in the way of their conquest. These were EVIL people. No different from gangstas on the streets of New Orleans or Hitler himself. Giving the average soldier a 'pass' because he was too young, ignorant, or brainwashed to understand that killing millions of innocent people puts those giving the 'pass' next in line to commit the same atrocities. Individuals are responsible for their actions. German (and Japanese) soldiers were as guilty as their dictators. Not holding them responsible invites the history to repeat itself. 50-80 million dead from their actions probably have a different view. You apologists disgust me.
They were evil no doubt.... but no worse than Russia and their leader..... who was Times "man of the year"
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:00 pm to Ole War Skule
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Yeah. Running through Poland, Belgium, France, and Russia machine gunning down men, women and children. Pretty easy not to figure out you're not the bad guy. ??
Not a hyperbolic, slanted portrayal of WWII whatsoever.
You should write Hollywood scripts.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:15 pm to ChewyDante
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Not a hyperbolic, slanted portrayal of WWII whatsoever.
You should write Hollywood scripts.
Is there something not accurate about my portrayal? Do people not know what German soldiers did?
What your innocent German boys did to civilians in Europe
"Of the around 6 million victims of the Holocaust, no more than half died in the death camps. About 3 million people died in the ghettoes or were killed by hand, often by a shot to the back of the neck, which made it necessary to create special firing squads. In principle, soldiers in the Wehrmacht were exempt from performing these tasks, which were handled by special SS units and police battalions."
This happened all over Europe. Do you think they were just delivering Brats and beer to hungry and thirsty neighbors when they invaded Poland, France, Belgium, Russia etc?
Are people really asking whether the people who did these things knew they were 'bad'
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