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What is osteopathic medicine?
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:08 pm
Can someone explain the real differences between a DO and an MD to me? Seems on the surface you'd always go with the MD as a doctor because they are the better schools but both are able to prescribe medicine and perform surgeries? So what gives, why the two paths for the medical field? What's the difference?
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:10 pm to Ross
Different schools with different accreditation agencies. DO's often complete allopathic residencies, although there are also osteopathic residencies. The biggest difference is that DO schools are easier to get into, but they have to pass the same tests (or equivalent) to complete their training.
There are some other differences, especially if you want to practice outside of the US. Also, Anyone who attends a Caribbean school or foreign medical school will still have "MD" after their name, so at least you know that a "DO" was trained in the US without looking up any more information.
There are some other differences, especially if you want to practice outside of the US. Also, Anyone who attends a Caribbean school or foreign medical school will still have "MD" after their name, so at least you know that a "DO" was trained in the US without looking up any more information.
This post was edited on 7/16/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:18 pm to Ross
Essentially same curriculum, but they take additional courses in manipulation medicine (somewhat along the lines of chiropractor but actually better). Very few grads use it in actual practice.usually for profit schools, and easier admission as well.
They have their own residencies, though many apply for the allopathic (md) residencies.
Most of their grads tend to do medicine/em/anesthesia fields. Hard to get into an allopathic surgical residency as a DO grad.
They have their own residencies, though many apply for the allopathic (md) residencies.
Most of their grads tend to do medicine/em/anesthesia fields. Hard to get into an allopathic surgical residency as a DO grad.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:18 pm to Yellerhammer5
Can you break down in laymans terms what the key differences in classes one would take between taking an osteopathic route and an allopathic route?
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:20 pm to Ross
Osteopath students take all the same classes as allopathic students, plus OMM courses.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:21 pm to Ross
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Can you break down in laymans terms what the key differences in classes one would take between taking an osteopathic route and an allopathic route?
Virtually the same. However, DO schools require classes on osteopathic manipulation bullshite. It's also covered on their tests. Most study it to pass the test, then never use it again. DO schools also tend to have less supervised and more spread out 3rd and 4th year rotations, often requiring traveling to different cities. All my MD rotations were in the same city with the same Attendings. At the end of the day though, most training is received in residency and fellowship.
This post was edited on 7/16/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:22 pm to Yellerhammer5
Doesn't matter - it won't be covered under Trumpcare and all major health insurers exclude it.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:32 pm to Halftrack
Please don't gay up my thread with your politics
TIA
TIA
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:34 pm to Yellerhammer5
Good info, thanks.
It is interesting to me that there are two paths to being able to practice medicine, and wanted to see if the general consensus is that these DOs were legit or snake oil salesmen who just couldn't get into med school.
Also the OMM training sound sort of like a ridiculous pseudoscience to me and weird if that is the only barrier to separating the fields. But I am not in the medical field so I don't know.
It is interesting to me that there are two paths to being able to practice medicine, and wanted to see if the general consensus is that these DOs were legit or snake oil salesmen who just couldn't get into med school.
Also the OMM training sound sort of like a ridiculous pseudoscience to me and weird if that is the only barrier to separating the fields. But I am not in the medical field so I don't know.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:42 pm to Ross
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wanted to see if the general consensus is that these DOs were legit or snake oil salesmen who just couldn't get into med school.
FWIW, people get into MD schools (even the best ones) that have no business ever treating patients either due to personality or academic issues. Med schools also do a pretty poor job of weeding out these students, and most people that begin medical school will graduate. Some doctors also seem very knowledgeable, but are not good at their jobs. This is especially true of surgeons. All the training in the world can't help some people. If you have ever have concerns about a doctor, get a second opinion or ask another physician if you know one.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:51 pm to Ross
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It is interesting to me that there are two paths to being able to practice medicine, and wanted to see if the general consensus is that these DOs were legit or snake oil salesmen who just couldn't get into med school.
The next time someone chooses DO over even an average med school will be the first time.
I agree schooling doesn't mean everything, but I do think it's kinda BS that you go to an office and have a DO and a MD practicing hand in hand. It's a lower grade way to get in, yes they can be great and have more desire than an Md but why do we have Md standards for Med school but allow a back door? Just my opinion worth nothing.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:52 pm to Ross
Yeah . DO school grads may have had lower scores out of college. No one chooses DO over MD (unless it's over the Caribbean schools). There are a few well known DO that are respected but several are meh.
Either way, wouldn't worry about the do/md moniker too much. How we practice medicine is more.dictated by where we do residency moreso than the school we went to.
Either way, wouldn't worry about the do/md moniker too much. How we practice medicine is more.dictated by where we do residency moreso than the school we went to.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:58 pm to Ross
The short answer is that your local Wal-Mart optometrist can now do surgery. Some chiropractors can do surgery.
Psychologists, with no medical training, can prescribe drugs.
Seems like anybody with anything medical 'sounding' can do surgery or prescribe drugs.
"Dr. Watson, surgery on aisle 10"
Psychologists, with no medical training, can prescribe drugs.
Seems like anybody with anything medical 'sounding' can do surgery or prescribe drugs.
"Dr. Watson, surgery on aisle 10"
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:58 pm to Puffoluffagus
There's been more talk recently to merge the DO/MD residencies into one oversight agency. To have equal standards between the two residencies.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 1:01 pm to Ross
I refuse to ever see a DO. It's someone who couldn't get good enough grades to get into a real med school so they are forced to pay their way into the profession. These are the guys who are practicing who also espouse the homeopathic bullshite.
Same thing goes for DDS vs DMD only see a DDS.
Same thing goes for DDS vs DMD only see a DDS.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 2:02 pm to Ross
DOs do everything MDs do treatment wise, but they also incorporate more non-medicine techniques such as stretching and massage.
I prefer DOs to MDs.
DOs also tend to be younger.
I prefer DOs to MDs.
DOs also tend to be younger.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 2:18 pm to Eli Goldfinger
If you are lazy and just want a pill for all your issues go to an MD.
A DO is more likely to sit with you and discuss a plan for taking care of the underlying problem. They are more holistic typically and not as reductionist.
A DO is more likely to sit with you and discuss a plan for taking care of the underlying problem. They are more holistic typically and not as reductionist.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 2:21 pm to baldona
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The next time someone chooses DO over even an average med school will be the first time.
Not entirely true. Acceptance to schools like PCOM in Philly is highly competitive. Many people that go there chose it over MD schools. To assume that everyone in a DO school is a med school reject is pretty ignorant.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 2:23 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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It's someone who couldn't get good enough grades to get into a real med school so they are forced to pay their way into the profession.
One of the dumbest things I've read on the OT in a while. Do you seriously believe that? Have you ever bothered to actually research the subject a bit?
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