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re: Marco Rubio on Net Neutrality: ‘This Is a Solution in Search of a Problem’
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:31 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:31 pm to Korkstand
quote:Nah. ISP aren't putting anyone in jail for not paying them.
We aren't talking about pricing power, we're talking about the ability to tax a competitor's goods.
quote:Your ISP isn't a third party. They are an integral part of the delivery of the goods.
I brought privacy into it because a third party has no right to charge either me or walmart for the things I buy from walmart. Do you still not get it?
quote:Entirely are. You often see house brands right next to other brands that paid for their shelf space.
House brands are not even remotely comparable to this.
quote:I have no answer to a loaded question, because I don't buy the premise. I don't equate competitive advantage to extortion.
So I'll ask the question again, since again you haven't answered. How should Walmart respond to an extortion attempt by Amazon the ISP?
Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:29 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:You take exception to my using the word "tax" to describe this, just because they don't have the power to imprison people?
Nah. ISP aren't putting anyone in jail for not paying them.
quote:Ah, yes, that key word "delivery", which I pay my ISP to do for me. That makes them first party to the delivery transaction, and third party to the other transaction, whether that be arguing on TD or streaming Netflix. So why is that not the end of it? Why do you insist that my ISP have the right to inspect my purchases and interactions, and decide if they should take some sort of action on that information?
Your ISP isn't a third party. They are an integral part of the delivery of the goods.
quote:So? You are talking about advertising, and trying to compare it to anti-competitive behavior by an ISP. The fact that you still don't understand the difference is not surprising to me.
You often see house brands right next to other brands that paid for their shelf space.
quote:OK, let me unload the question for you. Would it be ok, in your view, for Amazon the ISP to seek payment from Walmart in exchange for allowing AmazonISP's customers to access walmart.com?
I have no answer to a loaded question
quote:We aren't exactly talking about your run-of-the-mill competitive advantage. We are talking about a handful of companies abusing their position as gatekeepers to a multi-trillion dollar slice of the economy.
I don't equate competitive advantage to extortion.
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