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re: What is the OT view of mass transit?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:25 pm to Slippy
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:25 pm to Slippy
I loved the transit systems in NYC and Paris. Really anywhere in Europe can be traveled by train and bus.
Yes the freedom of a vehicle is nice but sitting in traffic sucks. Being on a train/bus/subway is nice because you can read, eat, listen to music, take a nap, etc. I'd love to ditch car payment, insurance, fuel, and maintenance costs.
No risk of DUI/DWI either.
But houses and businesses are too spread out here for it to be efficient. I think drivers cars will happen before population density reaches the point needed to have effective public transportation here.
Yes the freedom of a vehicle is nice but sitting in traffic sucks. Being on a train/bus/subway is nice because you can read, eat, listen to music, take a nap, etc. I'd love to ditch car payment, insurance, fuel, and maintenance costs.
No risk of DUI/DWI either.
But houses and businesses are too spread out here for it to be efficient. I think drivers cars will happen before population density reaches the point needed to have effective public transportation here.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:26 pm to Slippy
I live in NYC. My commute requires the subway and path train. No way in hell would I try to drive to work.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:27 pm to Slippy
Any form of subway or train and I fricking love it. Would never take my car. A bus however, doesn't have the luxury of avoiding traffic
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:28 pm to Slippy
Public transportation turns any decent area it touches into a fricking cesspool in a short period of time. frick that shite .
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:28 pm to Cmk07c
Other than downtown NOLA the city and surrounding area is still to speed out. You would more than likely still need a car once you got across.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:31 pm to Slippy
Cities with good public transport were created with the horses and walking in mind. Cities in the South and West, mostly had cars already in mind by the time public transport became feasible. Public transport in DFW would be a nightmare and way too fricking expensive to implement on a practical scale. Beijing the subway systems were fricking huge and you'd have to implement it on that scale. LA's mass transit is also a nightmare.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:32 pm to Seldom Seen
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Mass transit sucks. Anybody who had to rid the public school bus can tell you that.
For every clean person there'll be 2 people that for forgot to bathe oe wipe their asses.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:43 pm to Seldom Seen
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Mass transit sucks
I'm pretty sure I'd rather pay $60 a month for a train pass than pay $500 a month for car payments/insurance. I'd rather know exactly when I'm going to get somewhere, not have to worry about traffic, not have to worry about paying for gas, not have to pay for maintenance, and not have to worry about stupid drivers killing me. Plus, I can do something productive on mass transit instead of actually driving.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:46 pm to Slippy
I take the bus in NOLA. It picks me up a block from my house and drops me off a block from my workplace in the CBD. Way cheaper than paying for monthly parking downtown.
It's a shame most people turn their noses up at it. It's more reliable than most people think.
It's a shame most people turn their noses up at it. It's more reliable than most people think.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:47 pm to nobigdeal69
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A friend of mine just moved to downtown Dallas, and he has a DART stop right in front of his building. The 2 times I've gone to see him, I've taken the train. I have a station about 4 miles away from my house, so it's perfect.
Too easy.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:48 pm to Slippy
I ride the light rail in Houston all the time. Beats paying for parking at an event, waiting to get in/out of said event and also not getting a fricking DWI
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:40 pm to Seldom Seen
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Mass transit sucks. Anybody who had to rid the public school bus can tell you that.
Sitting (or standing) on a crowded Metro train while getting where I'm going in a reasonable time beats the ever loving hell out of sitting in traffic for two hours trying to get across town or outside the beltway.
I owned a car when I moved to DC. In my first year here, I used it maybe once per week or two weeks. The second year, I lent it to my sister-in-law for pretty much the whole year and practically never used it. The third year, I lent it to someone else for about 90% of its driving time and again almost never used it. In the fourth year, it sat unused in my $200 per month underground off-street parking space for such a long time that the battery went dead from not being started for too long...twice. After the second time that happened, I sold the car because it was stupid to pay for registration, parking and insurance on a car I almost never used. I haven't had one since, and wouldn't accept one if someone offered it to me for free, except maybe to just turn around and sell it for the cash.
When it's not convenient to take public transit in the city, Uber/Lyft is still a much cheaper and more convenient option than having a car. My average Uber/Lyft ride is usually $3-4. Even if I used Uber or Lyft round trip every day, it would only be about $180-240 a month, which is basically what it costs to park a car here.
The only use I have for a car is if I'm going to take a long driving trip out of town, and it's much cheaper to just rent one for those occasions than to register, park and insure one full-time, and that's not even to mention the cost of buying/leasing the car to begin with.
The only down side? Since I'm never driving, I can always drink whenever I'm somewhere that it's available, which does not always lead to the best feeling the next morning.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:41 pm to jdeval1
Theoretically, then you have to remember how many dumbasses are driving between the two and account for 20 minute delays for wrecks. In actually takes closer to 1:15-1:30 to make the drive during the work week.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 7:43 pm to Cosmo
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Most southern cities are too spread out for trains to make sense
The NE corridor has both high density within each city (to support local mass transit), and not much distance between cities (supports inter-city transit), and that is what makes it work. You really need both.
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