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Another fairy tale ending for someone on the team with the terrible medical staff. As much as it's easy and I even concur with the likelihood that our staff does suck, these guys are miraculously healthy in contract years. That has to go into your opinion when talking about our staff.

There's a big difference between being critical of him coming back well into the season last year and talking about his injuries leading up to it. It's just plain fact that he missed a ton of time due to injury, and the one season he was good to go, we had to wait on him to get here.

Your posts are filled with venom. My earlier posts at least attempt discourse.

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you're doing that to yourself.

if you cant defend what you're writing and are resorting to ad hominem attacks, then you know you said some dumb things.

You know what you're doing by pulling out little snippets of a quote in an entire paragraph. You have intentionally left out parts that you might possibly agree with just for the sake of argument. I'm not sure why you're grinding your axe here.

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Posted by Cap Crunch

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Member since Dec 2010

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Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:17 am to ShamelessPel

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Your posts are filled with venom. My earlier posts at least attempt discourse

lol, this was your first post in this thread:

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Honestly he's too much of a prissy bitch to like this city. Bye. What a disappointment. I remember watching a young Holiday in Philly thinking this dude is a baller. Now his wife walks around with his balls in her purse and he's lost all that edge and fire on the court.

Great attempt at discourse there

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Posted by corndeaux

Member since Sep 2009

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Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:20 am to ShamelessPel

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Your posts are filled with venom. My earlier posts at least attempt discourse

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Honestly he's too much of a prissy bitch to like this city. Bye. What a disappointment. I remember watching a young Holiday in Philly thinking this dude is a baller. Now his wife walks around with his balls in her purse and he's lost all that edge and fire on the court.

i'm stating what i think is happening and where i think you're missing the mark. not sure why you must read any push back or disagreement as "venom." i'm not calling you names or insisting on bad faith from you

the funny thing about all of this is that i dont think we disagree too much on Holiday's worth as a player. you seem to have already written the story (which may not even happen) that the Pels will wait for Holiday, who ends up walking anyway, thus missing out on other moves, and/or offer him more money than he's worth to stay.

the difference, it appears to me, is that for you, that scenario is all Holiday's fault.

for me, the Pels have agency. they don't have to wait for Holiday or pay him more than they think he is worth. especially, if there is doubt about his fit in a new, more off ball role

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