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re: The US Overdose Epidemic - Big Deal Or Meh?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:25 pm to Machine
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:25 pm to Machine
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sidenote: we should legalize, tax, and educate/rehabilitate
A large number of those are on legal, taxed prescription drugs. If you are advocating legalizing drugs like heroin and allowing unrestricted access to prescription drugs, I suspect that would negatively affect the situation. If you are advocating regulating currently illegal drugs when legalized, you're still in the same boat with a slightly bigger menu to choose from.
quote:We've been trying that for decades now, to little avail. As much as people ridiculed it, the just say no campaign coincided with a statistical decrease in drug related incidents and the cessation of the program coincided with an upward trend in drug incidents. I'm not sure if that program was really the trigger but it targeted younger folks (kids specifically), attempting to head off drug use beforehand as opposed to trying to deal with after exposure.
educate/rehabilitate
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:29 pm to Sao
heroin is becoming a thing. it used to be a thing in the north east now everyone wants dog food.
i just found out an ex of mine OD'd 2 weeks ago. she is alive but still.
we are going to do something i mean crack even just won't... you got to be pretty fricking high to OD on crack. I Mean REALLLLLY fricking high. you got to TRY to od on crack.
H it just takes some product being too strong or you fricking up just once it's game over. this shite is killing people. that's never cool.
i just found out an ex of mine OD'd 2 weeks ago. she is alive but still.
we are going to do something i mean crack even just won't... you got to be pretty fricking high to OD on crack. I Mean REALLLLLY fricking high. you got to TRY to od on crack.
H it just takes some product being too strong or you fricking up just once it's game over. this shite is killing people. that's never cool.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:30 pm to chasmania
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need opium, amphetamines, etc.
mmmmhhhmmm. How good does an adderall and 4 shots of vodka sound before the game tonight
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:32 pm to mikelbr
sounds like awful dehydration and a headache.
I wouldn't turn it down tho
I wouldn't turn it down tho
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:32 pm to upgrayedd
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I can assure you that if you talk to any DEA, Border Patrol, or Customs agent, they'l pretty much all tell you that not only are we losing the war, but that it's an unwinable one as well. People want to get high and will do whatever it takes to do it.
We are losing the war....but it is winnable.
We just haven't figured out the right strategy to do so.
We haven't found the right balance between enforcement/punishment, rehabilitation and treatment, and education.
Plus without a secure border we are spinning our wheels.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:32 pm to Sao
Don't care. Get high on personal responsibility you losers
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:33 pm to vengeanceofrain
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H it just takes some product being too strong or you fricking up just once it's game over.
I think that part where you cook something into a liquid, draw it up into a syringe, then inject into your body makes me feel less sorry for them.
You gotta really want to do heroin.
It's not like a teenager huffing freon from an air conditioner out of a garbage bag and dying.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:35 pm to theenemy
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We are losing the war....but it is winnable.
You'll never win a "war on drugs".
You have to accept their presence and deal with them like we deal with everything else. Hell, teen smoking is at it's all time lowest point in history despite the fact that cigarettes weren't outlawed.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:36 pm to mikelbr
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You gotta really want to do heroin.
You can snort it and smoke it as well.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:39 pm to upgrayedd
Fentanyl.....
Because fentanyl is so much more powerful than heroin, there's a greater chance of overdose if officers get some powder on their skin during field tests. Others can also be affected if officers get powder on their uniforms.
Earlier this month federal officials warned local police across the country to take added precautions when contact with fentanyl is possible.
Accidental contact with a quantity equivalent to five or six grains of table salt can be deadly if inhaled or absorbed through skin abrasions, U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration chief Chuck Rosenberg said when the new warnings were
Because fentanyl is so much more powerful than heroin, there's a greater chance of overdose if officers get some powder on their skin during field tests. Others can also be affected if officers get powder on their uniforms.
Earlier this month federal officials warned local police across the country to take added precautions when contact with fentanyl is possible.
Accidental contact with a quantity equivalent to five or six grains of table salt can be deadly if inhaled or absorbed through skin abrasions, U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration chief Chuck Rosenberg said when the new warnings were
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:41 pm to vengeanceofrain
quote:
H it just takes some product being too strong or you fricking up just once it's game over. this shite is killing people. that's never cool.
To think Congress had to step in and get involved when they jacked the prices of Narcan up %400.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:56 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:What about your neighbor's son or your niece who tries heroin for the first time due to peer pressure and drops dead?
I couldn't care less about junkies OD'ing.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:10 pm to Sao
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I cannot say I'm sorry enough, sincerely. If it's not too hard, could you share a little about your son he was and how it started? I'm a father of a 15 YO. Knowing how to be vigilant about this may help many here.
I can't. Too raw. Hug 'em. Love 'em. Make them work for everything they want.
I have no advice. I won't take the blame for his choices. Nor can I can take credit for our daughter's Phd and her choices.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:12 pm to NyCaLa
quote:Holy shite man, so sorry.
NyCaLa
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:20 pm to The Mick
My brother is an addict. I have no sympathy for anyone who takes something that they cannot verify what it is. Kids today are exposed to more information than at anytime in history.
They all know that if you take drugs, then overdosing is a distinct possibility.
Drug addicts are the scourge of the Earth.
They all know that if you take drugs, then overdosing is a distinct possibility.
Drug addicts are the scourge of the Earth.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:32 pm to The Mick
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What about your neighbor's son or your niece who tries heroin for the first time due to peer pressure and drops dead?
I think that has to be on par with likely as getting struck by lightning.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:36 pm to theenemy
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secure border
I'm conservative but even I know that securing the border won't solve anything or even slow down the smuggling rate. Smugglers will find any means to get the shite on our streets just as an addict will find any means to get high.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:38 pm to Dire Wolf
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Coke isn't that bad in moderation
Who does coke in moderation?
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:39 pm to 14&Counting
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Who does coke in moderation?
Someone without a reliable connection to buy coke.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 3:40 pm to Devil_doge
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I'm conservative but even I know that securing the border won't solve anything or even slow down the smuggling rate. Smugglers will find any means to get the shite on our streets just as an addict will find any means to get high.
BP seizing 100 lbs of weed at the border is about like a NOLA cop seizing an 8th. Almost not even worth their time.
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