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re: Percentage of legit strong guys in your gym
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:21 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:21 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
I can see why you think that but it's not entirely true. Actually I think it has no merit but I don't really care one way or another to argue about it,
I can double overhand w/no hook my 5RM or hook grip it & im getting near damn similar muscle training for that area. It's gonna burn either way. The thumb just locks you in. That's fair game to me. You aren't introducing a foreign apparatus to control the bar,
I can double overhand w/no hook my 5RM or hook grip it & im getting near damn similar muscle training for that area. It's gonna burn either way. The thumb just locks you in. That's fair game to me. You aren't introducing a foreign apparatus to control the bar,
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:38 pm to Lester Earl
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I can double overhand w/no hook my 5RM or hook grip it & im getting near damn similar muscle training for that area. It's gonna burn either way. The thumb just locks you in. That's fair game to me. You aren't introducing a foreign apparatus to control the bar,
Straps have the exact same affect on your lift as the hook grip. Both put a stronger bind on the bar and allow you to train the muscle.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 2:47 pm to Lester Earl
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I can see why you think that but it's not entirely true. Actually I think it has no merit but I don't really care one way or another to argue about it,
I can double overhand w/no hook my 5RM or hook grip it & im getting near damn similar muscle training for that area. It's gonna burn either way. The thumb just locks you in. That's fair game to me. You aren't introducing a foreign apparatus to control the bar,
I like having intelligent conversations and am not arguing to argue.
The way I see it is that your true grip strength comes from double overhand no hook (DONH). Rotation of the bar makes it harder to hold because it is creating a longer moment arm on your fingers.
Hook grip is a DONH but with the added security of the thumb to keep the bar from creating a longer moment arm on the fingers. It also aids your grip because it is applying opposing forces to the bar. This is helpful to your grip. DONH will help your hook grip but I do not believe your hook grip will help you DONH.
Straps are a double overhand with the "thumb" being the strap and additional opposing force that is not limited by slipping of the thumb.
So, the way I see it is that if you want to work on grip, use the DONH and overload with straps. Use hook grip towards the top range to get use to the idea and for competition.
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