re: Protein 30 mins after a workout, yay or nay?

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Firstly, you piss out the protein by product. You don't actually piss out protein but I don't feel like I needed to explain that in depth to you.

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of course you piss it out after you use it. There are plenty of newer studies that show our bodies slows digestion of protein to make it available once we need it sometimes taking up to 12 hours to digest a large meal.

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.80 to maintain
1.5 to gain

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First off, if you are going to pull numbers from a study, atleast understand the parameters of the study and how the numbers actually relate to real world applications. I have read the study that formed the .8 and its .8 per pound of lean muscle. The study was performed with participatants eating at a minimum of maintenance calories so it doesn't apply to those that are in deep caloric deficits.

the 1.5x number is nothing more than you pulling bro science BS that you read somewhere with nothing to back it up. In both cases the numbers you put up are nothing more than you parrotting numbers that you read somewhere with no understanding of how they relate to the real world. But at 1.5x bodyweight I would be close to 300g anyways.

But if you trhink somebody cant gain on 1g per lbs while in a caloric surplus than you are wrong. Wont be as fast as possible but you can still gain very well. So again you are just parrotting numbers with no understanding of where they came from.

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Anymore is completely unnecessary. That's not to say there aren't outliers. Not only that, but 20-30g is perfect for protein synthesis in a single serving. Any more? ... Stored. (Then pissed)

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Care to proivide a study on this or anything else to back up this BS? This shite has been prioven false so many times its not funny. Instead of running your mouth about leangains.com how about you go read some of the studies he has listed. In fact if you did, you would know this is compolete BS. But keep spewing your bro science that you accused me of and keep reading Tnation.

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Finally, this notion that carbs are terrible for you needs to end. Too many carbs? Of course. ... But carbs are absolutely fine for recovery. Just don't eat cakes and cookies all day.

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Jesus your reading comprhension is bad. I never said carbs are terrible for you. In fact, I have screamed from the mountain tops when it comes to weight loss the % of carbs and fats are insignificant. But lets get one thing straight, wehn it comes to health and things like cholesterol, hdl to ldl ratio, triglycirides, resting glucose levels etc.....processed carbs and carbs in general are not good for you. Sorry they are not good for health. Do some research before running at the mouth.

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And if leangains is your source, I'm sorry. You're a bro.

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Shows how little you know or care. Leangains has hundreds of studies linked and is a great resource for research. Every single claim he makes is backed by a study. He is known for his anti bro science. As far as me being a bro/meathead...I make no qualms about it. But I am anything but dumb or typical meathead. I do have a engineering degree.

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I've linked to T-Nation on here but I'm well aware of what's good on there and what's bullshite. I'm not going to spout off about female gym orgasms just because I read it on T-Nation. Find one collegiate strength coach that's directing their athlete's to only eat protein and nearly no carbs and I'll never post over here again.

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Collegiate strength coaches not recommending low carb....well you don't fricking say. Kind of a big difference in eating for aesthetics and one for performance of a college athlete wouldn't you say. When I go zero carbs I am worried much less about performance and much more about how I look. The rapid fatloss diet is all about rapid fatloss, nothing to do with strength. But again you run your mouth without having any understanding of what is going on.

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You won't though because carbs are essential to performance. And if you want to lift fricking heavy you better be able to perform that day.

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Thats funny, I don't lose strength while on zero carbs. Sure I wont gain it as fast, nore can I handle the volume, but I don't lose it. In fact studies show once fat adapated, you can gain strength and endurance better and that is why many of the extreme runners in the world have switched to zero carbs.

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I await your leangain links telling me to eat 80g post workout.

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Go read the leangains guide. Not going to sppon feed you. DO the math, 3g per kg with 50-60% coming popstworkout. If you are eating 250-300g in a day, its easy to see the math.

again not trying to be a dickbut if you call me out for being all about bro science, you better be able to back it up with studies and factual articles, not some bullshite you pulled off of tnation or I am going to call you out on BS. I am pretty much the anti bro here when it comes to nutrition. But hey if you like looking the same year after year or what you are doing works for you, keep doing what you are doing. but if you are going to critizie others and try to call them out, you better come with good ammo.

Im done with this though, tired of arguing with somebody that isnt educated ont he topic.