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re: Article Drops About Oregon St Ace Felony Molestation Conviction
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:28 pm to chalmetteowl
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:28 pm to chalmetteowl
I think what this guy did is utterly indefensible, but why should we have higher expectations for baseball players than the cook at Dennys? Would you refuse to eat breakfast there if they hired a juvenile child molester? I bet you wouldn't eat many meals holding restaurants to the same standard.
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:29 pm to Topwater Trout
Isn't he a lawyer? He's basically been programmed to think that way.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Having hands placed on your genitals as a child is OBJECTIVELY better than being murdered, cut up and eaten.
You ATM folks just continue to show how fricked up of a cult you really are.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:30 pm to Rhino5
You would rather be dead?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:32 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I honestly would rather have been murdered and dead then have a family member put their fingers and other things in my arse as a 4-6 year old. I seriously mean that
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:35 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Ray Lewis, Rapelisberger, Kobe say hi
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:35 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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You would rather be dead?
Than live feeling insignificant, no confidence, questioning yourself with every move, angry. I don't know big guy but it doesn't sound promising for the victim. Show me that CEO that's a victim of abuse.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i mean look at his case. the data shows the intervention done has a very high success rate
No, all juvenile sex offender cases combined have high success rate. This is the absolute worst of the worst.
Stop referencing data that is useless. If it said teenagers who repeatedly molest toddlers they are related to have high success rate, then the data would be great.
There's good data and bad data. This is bad.
And I'm fine not punishing him legally anymore, but as a team/coach/school, I'm not letting him participate.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:40 pm to Rhino5
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insignificant, no confidence, questioning yourself
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Show me that CEO that's a victim of abuse.
Do you view all victims of sexual assault this way?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:45 pm to TheCaterpillar
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There's good data and bad data. This is bad.
It's not bad data, it's the only data. The data doesn't get as granular as needed for the purposes of this thread, so neither side is right. You can't say SlowFlow is wrong is anymore than SlowFlow can say that he's right.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:46 pm to TheWalrus
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why should we have higher expectations for baseball players than the cook at Dennys?
These athletes are representing their schools. If a star pitcher or football player started a hate group (something that is perfectly legal), they would be booted with the quickness.
I do not want someone who finger banged a toddler multiple times representing my, or any other school. It astounds me that others are okay with it.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Do you view all victims of sexual assault this way?
Divert bud.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Your loved ones would know. That doesn't matter?
also let's remember my hypo involves the killer writing a note to the parents describing what he did in a bragging way
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:48 pm to Rhino5
It isn't a diversion at all. You probably won't find many CEOs who have publicly said they're a victim of sexual assault, because there are people who view them as weak and lacking confidence
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:52 pm to bubbz
MLB wants to crucify wife beaters. What will they do to a child molester? His teammates won't take too kindly to it for sure.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:56 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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It isn't a diversion at all.
there isn't a gray area with molestation/rape of a 4 year old for 2 years. He either did or didn't. He did. Remove from team. He cannot be drafted, and let him try and get a job in the real world as a convicted felon, sex predator.Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:58 pm to Rhino5
I don't understand why you think I'm defending him. I could give a shite what happens to him
I'm criticizing your view of sexual assault victims and how you believe their lives are not worth living
I'm criticizing your view of sexual assault victims and how you believe their lives are not worth living
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:03 pm to lsupride87
This situation and story are awful and I have no idea what will happen. My guess is he won't pitch again in college (and maybe not at all).
These threads always devolve into people trying to one-up each other on how much they are against sexual molestation of kids. Every single rational person is against this and thinks it is horrible. Just because someone doesn't think this guy should get the death penalty does not mean they support him in any way but that is what these threads turn into. The irony is that when people try to prove how against this they are they end up typing things like:
This is not supporting people who are victims of pedophilia. You are communicating that what they have experienced, that you even acknowledge is something many of them have challenges coming to grips with, is worse than being dead.
This is not the only statement in this thread that has done this. It should not be a controversial statement to say that it is objectively worse to be cut up and eaten then being this person's victim. And saying that does not take away acknowledgment that both situations are horrible.
These threads always devolve into people trying to one-up each other on how much they are against sexual molestation of kids. Every single rational person is against this and thinks it is horrible. Just because someone doesn't think this guy should get the death penalty does not mean they support him in any way but that is what these threads turn into. The irony is that when people try to prove how against this they are they end up typing things like:
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I honestly would rather have been murdered and dead then have a family member put their fingers and other things in my arse as a 4-6 year old. I seriously mean that
This is not supporting people who are victims of pedophilia. You are communicating that what they have experienced, that you even acknowledge is something many of them have challenges coming to grips with, is worse than being dead.
This is not the only statement in this thread that has done this. It should not be a controversial statement to say that it is objectively worse to be cut up and eaten then being this person's victim. And saying that does not take away acknowledgment that both situations are horrible.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:04 pm to Rhino5
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Show me that CEO that's a victim of abuse.
He may not fit the ridiculously narrow criteria, but RA Dickey was a victim of sexual assault. And he reached the pinnacle of his profession.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:09 pm to Rhino5
That wasn't a diversion.
You just characterized sexual assault victims as people who feel "insignificant, no confidence, questioning yourself with every move, angry." Then said:
Who are you to define how victims should feel about themselves or what they can accomplish? I guarantee there CEOs who are sexual abuse victims. I guarantee there are very successful people who have been victims of sexual abuse. Your "support" isn't helping.
You just characterized sexual assault victims as people who feel "insignificant, no confidence, questioning yourself with every move, angry." Then said:
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I don't know big guy but it doesn't sound promising for the victim. Show me that CEO that's a victim of abuse.
Who are you to define how victims should feel about themselves or what they can accomplish? I guarantee there CEOs who are sexual abuse victims. I guarantee there are very successful people who have been victims of sexual abuse. Your "support" isn't helping.
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