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Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8331 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:30 pm to
Cavs in 6.

Game 7 is set for a Sunday night. So.....
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
52734 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:31 pm to
The Cavs will win this series. The Warriors are as soft as a pillow and have a lot of trouble dealing with adversity as a team and individually. Their toughest player is Draymond who is an emotional wreck plus the Cavs have the two best players and enough firepower around them. It's going to suck to listen to the Lebron worshippers but I still prefer the Cavs to the Warriors.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
85114 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:33 pm to
You don't think KD is the 2nd best player in the series?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
52734 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:35 pm to
I think he's the second most physically gifted but Kyrie is more of a killer and I believe is more reliable especially on the big stage.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:36 pm to
I think maybe he means the Cavs have two of the best three players, which I think we could make the case for.

I have to see it from Steph before I believe it. Both of these Finals he's been something less than his regular season self. Can't blame it on the injury because he was perfectly healthy in 2015.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
52734 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:39 pm to
I thought Steph was hurt last year? Not injured but pretty banged up.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:40 pm to
Right, but I said even in 2015 when Steph was perfectly fine Kyrie was giving him the business until his knee gave out. I don't see that changing.

Even still, I don't know how they account for KD if he continues his current trajectory. Just have to hope he's not ready for the moment. He was not dominant last year vs GS and wasn't dominant vs Miami the last time he was in the Finals. Both series he had some awful games shooting the 3.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
52734 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:45 pm to
Oh ok yes I agree Kyrie is better than Steph. Besides Lebron Kyrie might be the scariest player in the league.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111936 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:55 pm to
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Yeah? Well I upvoted you, so suck on that positivity.

And it's my only up vote.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111936 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:56 pm to
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Those guys overvalue the special insight that playing in the league has afforded them and simply attach that title to their opinions. They appeal to their own accomplishments.

They don't actually look at the numbers and make a rational judgment off of the relevant facts.
The real issue IMO is that they always think their time playing was the best time and today's game isn't as good.

If you think of the makeup/ego that makes a great player, that really makes perfect sense, and it's hard to see how that could change. That's who they are, that's what made them great.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6836 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:57 pm to
"And it isn't close" will average .34 uses per post during/following games LBJ plays well
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111936 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:00 pm to
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I think he's the second most physically gifted but Kyrie is more of a killer and I believe is more reliable especially on the big stage.

KD played in the Finals once. He averaged something like 31 points per game on 55% shooting.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111936 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:05 pm to
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and wasn't dominant vs Miami the last time he was in the Finals. Both series he had some awful games shooting the 3.
Not the 2012 Finals, KD went off. Granted, if i recall, when LeBron checked him, he didn't do as well.

But his numbers were crazy good. Shot over 50% in 4 of 5 games, 47% on 9 of 19 was his worst game shooting wise.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
40581 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:50 pm to
Cavs in 7, unfortunately. It seems their alll-star team is playing a tad better down the stretch than the GS all star team.

As a matter of fact, Klay has never played worse.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:57 pm to
Problem with Klay is he's a rhythm shooter. He's not like a JJ Redick that can just knock down a shot whenever. If he's not engaged in the game, he's limited. And KD's obviously the reason he's not as involved.

His game scores have been absolutely abysmal for someone of his supposed stature. Hope it continues.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
87780 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Cavs in 7, unfortunately. It seems their alll-star team is playing a tad better down the stretch than the GS all star team.


I'm 100% certain that you and Madking are taking the Cavs preemptively so you don't have to acknowledge how incredible a win would be for LeBron. You're not fooling me.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
40581 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

I'm 100% certain

Well you're 100% wrong.
I gave my reasoning for why I think the Cavs will win.
quote:

so you don't have to acknowledge how incredible a win would be for Lebron

Interesting, but when Lebron only scores 11, it's a team game again?
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 5:11 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
87780 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 5:14 pm to
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Interesting, but when Lebron only scores 11, it's a team game again?


If the Cavs win, it's because LeBron balled out. That's a safe assumption.

If LeBron balls out, they can still lose. Make sense?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
40581 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

If the Cavs win, it's because LeBron balled out. That's a safe assumption.

Many of the possessions run through James so umm yeah...But its also a safe assumption that many other Cavs players played well as well. Kyrie was the man in game 4 that led the charge and Love has been playing well all playoffs.

Make sense?
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 6:35 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
207856 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 5:45 pm to
Screw Durant.... Cavs in 7 AGAIN................
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