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re: Thomas Gallatin: Obama Doubled Your Healthcare Premium
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:04 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:04 pm to Taxing Authority
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It's even more disingenuous to count those subsidies as "savings" on medical care costs. You're leaving out how subsidies are paid for by other people.
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Quit being intentionally dumb.
The point made twice now is that the full context of exchange premiums is important. What a person's out-of-pocket costs actually are pre and post-subsidy, and the total unsubsidized premium costs. Ignoring one or the other easily lends itself misinformation without prior knowledge.
My point even earlier has been that the ACA did very little to address ever increasing prices in the system. It attempted to change the way Medicare reimburses people. Put more emphasis on qualitative measures. But it has not been nearly enough to make a big dent. The AHCA does nothing to improve this though.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:08 pm to bonhoeffer45
How much more tax money do you need to make your version of hc reform work?
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:42 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:
Quit being intentionally dumb.
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quote:Nope. One is a portion of the price. The other is the entirety of the cost. If were measuring cost, measuring a portion of it isn't "context".
The point made twice now is that the full context of exchange premiums is important. What a person's out-of-pocket costs actually are pre and post-subsidy, and the total unsubsidized premium costs. Ignoring one or the other easily lends itself misinformation without prior knowledge.
quote:No disagreement from me on that.
My point even earlier has been that the ACA did very little to address ever increasing prices in the system.
quote:Nothing will. You can't give away massive amounts of a product or service and simultaneously make it "cheap" for those that pay for it.
The AHCA does nothing to improve this though.
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