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re: Did Russia hack HRC and the DNC,
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:47 pm to VOLhalla
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:47 pm to VOLhalla
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There's enough evidence to convince 17 intelligence agencies that it was Russia.
You believed that? Without a shred of evidence? She lied on stage about the DNC server hack.
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The DNC didn't deny access to their server history. They hired a third party to locate the parts of the server history relevant to the hacking and then turned that over to the FBI.
Oh, well that makes it better....
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Organizations don't just turn over their entire server history to the FBI. That's an insane liability risk. Sorry it bursts y'all's conspiracy bubble but that's what happens in the real world.
How, in what way, is it a liability risk? It is the FBI - not some rouge company. They shouldn't have anything to hide. The FBI would want to get to the bottom of one of this country's major political parties server's being hacked....it is in the country's interest to solve it. There is more evidence that it was an internal link than a Russian hack.
I can't help a DNC shill
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:06 pm to Junky
I know you're emotionally invested in this "DNC hid its server from the FBI" nonsense, but you're coming across as a fool. Large organizations simply don't hand over their entire server history to the FBI. I, and every attorney I've worked with, would vehemently recommend against it.
Because no organization the size of the DNC knows with absolute certainly what its employees are emailing about. What if an employee sent an email admitting to dealing drugs on company property? Or if the company driver who was involved in a fender bender admitted that he was still drunk from the night before? There are a million things employees could admit in emails that could open the company up to liability. Why take that risk when you can hire a third party to single out only the relevant information for the FBI?
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How, in what way, is it a liability risk? It is the FBI - not some rouge company. They shouldn't have anything to hide.
Because no organization the size of the DNC knows with absolute certainly what its employees are emailing about. What if an employee sent an email admitting to dealing drugs on company property? Or if the company driver who was involved in a fender bender admitted that he was still drunk from the night before? There are a million things employees could admit in emails that could open the company up to liability. Why take that risk when you can hire a third party to single out only the relevant information for the FBI?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:22 pm to VOLhalla
HAHAHA yeah, ok bro. What a weak defense. Please tell me you have been an attorney for 20 yrs handling $15+ million accounts while you're at it because it really does not matter. Name all 17 agencies that stated that please....all of them.
The DNC already rigged HRC to win the nomination. Bernie supporters were pissed that he could win the popular vote, but Hilary's super delegates would win the day. Of course the DNC wanted to hide collusion with the Clinton campaign just like they wanted to hide HRC campaign's collusion with the media.
But keep believing Hillary's 17 IC statement
The DNC already rigged HRC to win the nomination. Bernie supporters were pissed that he could win the popular vote, but Hilary's super delegates would win the day. Of course the DNC wanted to hide collusion with the Clinton campaign just like they wanted to hide HRC campaign's collusion with the media.
But keep believing Hillary's 17 IC statement
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:23 pm to VOLhalla
Ah, well their liability was mitigated and they lost the election. Even if the Russians phished those morons' email when they had horrible internal controls, it has no bearing on any allegations concerning the election being "hacked," or the manner in which the results were tabulated across the country. ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconcheers.gif)
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This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:50 pm to Junky
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Name all 17 agencies that stated that please....all of them.
USA intelligence community:
Air Force Intelligence
Army Intelligence
Central Intelligence Agency
Coast Guard Intelligence
Defense Intelligence Agency
Energy Department
Homeland Security Department
State Department
Treasury Department
Drug Enforcement Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Marine Corps Intelligence
National Geospatial Intelligence Agency
National Reconnaissance Office
National Security Agency
Navy Intelligence
Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
The person in charge of all the intelligence portions of all 17 departments came to the conclusion that Russia was behind the hacks. So did many European countries, private companies, etc. you'd have to be blinded by emotion to not see that Russia was behind the hacks.
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Bernie supporters were pissed that he could win the popular vote, but Hilary's super delegates would win the day.
Hillary didn't need any superdelegates to beat sanders. She beat him by almost 4 million votes in the Democratic Primary.
You really should reconsider your news sources - you lack an even basic understanding of the 2016 election.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:55 pm to Gaston
They didn't do the dnc unless Seth rich is russian
Funny how the vileness in those emails is not disputed but totally forgotten
The dems do shite way worse than anything they accuse trump of as sop
Funny how the vileness in those emails is not disputed but totally forgotten
The dems do shite way worse than anything they accuse trump of as sop
Posted on 5/19/17 at 5:59 am to VOLhalla
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Name all 17 agencies that stated that please....all of them.
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USA intelligence community:
Air Force Intelligence
Army Intelligence
Central Intelligence Agency
Coast Guard Intelligence
Defense Intelligence Agency
Energy Department
Homeland Security Department
State Department
Treasury Department
Drug Enforcement Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Marine Corps Intelligence
National Geospatial Intelligence Agency
National Reconnaissance Office
National Security Agency
Navy Intelligence
Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
The person in charge of all the intelligence portions of all 17 departments came to the conclusion that Russia was behind the hacks
Serious question here:
I keep hearing about the '17 agencies concluded . . ."
My question = did all these agencies do their own analysis or any sort of investigation?
Or did they just all review the same piece of data that said 'looks like Russians' and agreed that 'yep it does.'
It seems to me they all worked with one conclusion formed by a third party and didn't look any further.
SO - they caught the Russians doing the same thing they have been doing for 50 years and what all countries do all the time.
No big deal to me.
Now = if somehow they had actually interfered with what the DNC and HRC were doing and inserted fictitious data into their communications streams or redirected/misdirected their communications then perhaps there would be a case of 'interference.'
But it appears to me they merely reported what they found due to lax security procedures by the DNC and HRC. It's almost like if they had found a briefcase on the sidewalk containing DNC/HRC communications and instead of destroying it passed it on.
This 'interference' narrative always seems to morph into a "hacked the election" narrative and that is worse than anything the Russkies ever did.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:08 am to VOLhalla
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The person in charge of all the intelligence portions of all 17 departments came to the conclusion that Russia was behind the hacks.
They did based on what the intelligence contractors told them...
Which has now proven false, made up.
Intel doesn't actually generate ideas, they regurgitate and package what others have already said...they sometimes don't even care if it's true
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:11 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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If Russia hacked the DNC, why not let the FBI inspect your servers?
Two possibilities:
1) They know it wasn't the Russians, but Seth Rich who leaked. Letting the FBI see the server would prove there was no Russia connection.
2) They thought it was the Russians, but they didn't want the FBI seeing all the illegal and unethical shite they were up to.
There's literally zero other possibilities. They had something to hide in either case.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:12 am to TheTheTheTheThe
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Russia didn't do anything
Paul Ryan and other Republican leaders disagree with you.
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:14 am to ChineseBandit58
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My question = did all these agencies do their own analysis or any sort of investigation?
No. This has been debunked. James Clapper said at his public hearing that only 3 agencies did the research (FBI, CIA, NSA). It's retarded to think that the Energy Department or Treasury Department had anything to do with this.
He also said that the analysts who wrote the report were "hand picked." (That means picked by the very trustworthy Obama/Lynch/Rice combo).
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