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re: Convince me why I should care if Trump worked with Russia
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:08 pm to thelawnwranglers
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:08 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I guess I am not seeing the big deal.
That's because you're stupid.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:09 pm to The Spleen
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That's because you're stupid.
well take this opportunity to enlighten me
use your words
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:11 pm to thelawnwranglers
You aren't seeing the big deal because you are a Trump supporter. If he was colluding with a foreign power to give him any sort of advantage in the election that would get him impeached
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:12 pm to thelawnwranglers
Putin and Russia are sworn enemies of the US, and Russia aids and abets Syria, Iran and state sponsors of terror.
If Trump has been determined to have colluded with this regime, then impeachment proceedings need to begin immediately. Real Americans despise Putin, and real Americans want their country back
If Trump has been determined to have colluded with this regime, then impeachment proceedings need to begin immediately. Real Americans despise Putin, and real Americans want their country back
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:13 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Save me why should I care?
Why should you care about a foriegn power installing it's puppet leader as President of the United States?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:13 pm to DirtyMike
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You aren't seeing the big deal because you are a Trump supporter. If he was colluding with a foreign power to give him any sort of advantage in the election that would get him impeached
Trump lesser of evil- Wasn't my first choice
I am sure Russia spied through some surrogate. If Trump was given that info in advance why do I care?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:15 pm to tarzana
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Putin and Russia are sworn enemies of the US, and Russia aids and abets Syria, Iran and state sponsors of terror.
you mean they fight CIA created ISIS?
I think Putin is a bad guy no doubt.
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If Trump has been determined to have colluded with this regime, then impeachment proceedings need to begin immediately. Real Americans despise Putin, and real Americans want their country back
Would Pence be Pres - I am cool with that. Deeper cuts and I think you have a lot of stability issues.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:16 pm to montanagator
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Why should you care about a foriegn power installing it's puppet leader as President of the United States?
Big leap from some surrogate spying Dems and Podesta and providing to Trump vs foreign Power inserting puppet
I think if you could paint a scenario where Russia somehow now has influence over Trump that would be a break point for me.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:18 pm to offshoretrash
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Hilary was caught getting debate questions before the debates, screwing Bernie Sanders over, 1000s of incriminating emails and questionable donations.
and she lost---sooo what's you point?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:19 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Would Pence be Pres - I am cool with that. Deeper cuts and I think you have a lot of stability issues.
If Trump goes down it would have to be from a scandal big enough that the VP would have to had at least known was going on.
I think the chances of impeachment at around 2% but if it happened then you'd see President Ryan most likely.
Edit: To the OP. If the worst theories about what went on between the Trump campaign and Russians are true then you would definitely care.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:21 pm to Haughton99
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If Trump goes down it would have to be from a scandal big enough that the VP would have to had at least known was going on.
I think the chances of impeachment at around 2% but if it happened then you'd see President Ryan most likely.
I would lose a lot of faith in the US in that scenario
Ryan I would honestly be happy with. Just the process. At the start of this I would have voted for Ryan before Trump and wouldn't even be close.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:21 pm to thelawnwranglers
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I am sure Russia spied through some surrogate. If Trump was given that info in advance why do I care?
I honestly can not believe someone is this dense. Under this hypothetical, you can not grasp why a geopolitical foe, who hands a presidential candidate information to aide his campaign, and instead of alerting authorities - publicly outing and denouncing this criminal act to influence our election and undercut our democratic process - he decides instead to collude, use and lie about it to win an election?
And you are confused why this is something to care about?
So you are saying you are ok with presidential candidates, colluding with geopolitical foes, collaborating when they commit criminal acts and espionage to further their interests, and lying to the American people about it?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:21 pm to Haughton99
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If the worst theories about what went on between the Trump campaign and Russians are true then you would definitely care.
what are those?
I am assuming he got a preview of hacked stuff
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:23 pm to thelawnwranglers
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At the start of this I would have voted for Ryan before Trump and wouldn't even be close.
You and me both. I've seen rumors that say Ryan is caught on tape with the russians during the election so hell, you could see President Hatch.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:24 pm to thelawnwranglers
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am sure Russia spied through some surrogate. If Trump was given that info in advance why do I care?
Most people that begin with "convince me why blah blah" will never be convinced otherwise. You are one of them. Regardless of political stance, if the sitting president colluded with a foreign power to give himself an advantage in the election, then he will be impeached. You should care about the president being impeached.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:24 pm to bonhoeffer45
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commit criminal acts and espionage
by phishing Podesta?
I mean we are using scary language here, but Podesta got phished.
I think Podesta is more dangerous than Russia.
UK spied Trump and we are cool with that no?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:25 pm to Haughton99
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President Hatch
will need to stock pile bourbon
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:27 pm to Haughton99
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If Trump goes down it would have to be from a scandal big enough that the VP would have to had at least known was going on.
I think the chances of impeachment at around 2% but if it happened then you'd see President Ryan most likely.
I tend to agree, but I think Orin hatch might be a more likely president. Ryan is pretty far enmeshed with trump at this point. Ryan was the defacto party leader, and he seems ok with trump.
Although if trump is impeached, I could see a scenario where pence resigns, new VP is selected, and then trump resigns. I have to say the chances of this happening are VERY LOW. Close to zero.
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Edit: To the OP. If the worst theories about what went on between the Trump campaign and Russians are true then you would definitely care.
I honestly believe they wouldnt care. They are willful idiots.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:27 pm to DirtyMike
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Most people that begin with "convince me why blah blah" will never be convinced otherwise.
I am honestly looking for the why
I don't like the sounds of it, but not sure I care. If you can paint a picture of him needing to report things to the FBI or him being influenced by Russia in the future those are good turning arguments.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 3:28 pm to thelawnwranglers
I don't care either way. I just know the libs have attached themselves to this for whatever reason.
Guess it's their last hope? No clue.
Guess it's their last hope? No clue.
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