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re: North Korea might use EMP strike on USA

Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by Lsuchs
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:12 pm to
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What if NK were to load it on a container ship and ship it here? I am sure that the vast majority of containers entering the US every year and never checked.


You'd be surprised how well the intelligence community keeps tabs on nuclear material.

IMO something that big wouldn't slip through the cracks especially coming from NK or anyone they would be doing business with.

I've personally seen things like this happen when I was in the military and never heard a peep on the news. Entire cargo ships diverted to a friendly port by US warships due to Intel of material in a certain container. Cargo ship captain burning paperwork, the whole 9 yards.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 5:17 pm
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:16 pm to
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North Korea is not capable of an EMP strike. More than half of their military equipment is so old that there is doubts weather it will actually work.


They went to the sun, they have all kinds of shite that no one knows about.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 5:37 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:18 pm to
An EMP capable of debilitating the Continental United States cannot be deployed in a fricking shipping container at water level.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:22 pm to
Our southern states are apparently very vulnerable, as in no early warning whatsoever, sp it's not as if we aren't or have not been exposed for a long time.

Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:26 pm to
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Our southern states are apparently very vulnerable, as in no early warning whatsoever


Not arguing with you but what kind of threat are you talking about as far early warning systems?
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
64699 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:27 pm to
What next to beat the war drums?

North Korea might contaminate the US beer supply...NK might steal all our footballs...NK might shout loud angry words. Geez who is pushing this narrative?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:34 pm to
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Not arguing with you but what kind of threat are you talking about as far early warning systems?


Anyone with nuclear capability that wishes to kick America square in the nuts.

The list is going to grow, not shrink.

Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:51 pm to
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Anyone with nuclear capability that wishes to kick America square in the nuts.


Still confused though by this:

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Our southern states are apparently very vulnerable, as in no early warning whatsoever


Are you talking about missile defense rather than early warning?

Why are southern states be more vulnerable in terms of early warning? The US military and thus US chain of command would know within 5 seconds of a launch. The destination of the missile wouldn't be immediately know however. I imagine we would get an alert on our phone, tv, and radio similar to an amber alert or severe weather warning I get now if something were launched. Then obviously once tuned into the situation updates on trajectory or intercept attempts would be easy to get.
If the gov chose to keep people in the dark to avoid panic then the best early warning systems wouldn't matter anyway in that case.

Are you saying we need airraid-like sirens incase you are throwing the baseball in a park or something?
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:04 pm to
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Are you talking about missile defense rather than early warning? Why are southern states be more vulnerable in terms of early warning? The US military and thus US chain of command would know within 5 seconds of a launch. The destination of the missile wouldn't be immediately know however. I imagine we would get an alert on our phone, tv, and radio similar to an amber alert or severe weather warning I get now if something were launched. Then obviously once tuned into the situation updates on trajectory or intercept attempts would be easy to get.


I'm talking about early warning

We are watching an attack from the north, but not from the south, as we apparently do not have early warning systems in place watching a southern strike. It's part of The old soviet plan to take us out with an EMP disguised as a satellite being shot into space, from the south as a preemptive first strike, then follow up with nukes. They can't do that from the north because of our early warning system which would alert us and we'd counter strike before the EMP struck.



This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 6:13 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
25133 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:08 pm to
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You'd be surprised how well the intelligence community keeps tabs on nuclear material.



Dozens of suitcase nukes disappeared when the U.S.S.R. fell.

Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40894 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:12 pm to
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North Korea might use EMP strike on USA




Nuke these frickers then I can't live without my cell phone.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58576 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:13 pm to
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You know it's blatant war propaganda when pure speculation is disguised as imminent death and destruction.


It's the fricking daily mail and it's written to get clicks from the chicken little loons. It's not war propaganda.
This same theory has been presented/published probably 30 times in the past 10 years.

Hey, did you know that Russia has spy ships off our coast and a russian plan flew near Alaska? It's only been a month or two since someone wrote one of those scare pieces. Might be about time for another one.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:16 pm to
It will be the last thing they try just before they start GLOWING
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29798 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:19 pm to
SDI?

I doubt it...

This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:21 pm to
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It's the fricking daily mail and it's written to get clicks


Not going to go to Daily Mail's defense here, but seriously, what news outlet doesn't? It's how they make money, getting you to click, listen, watch, etc. that's just how it works, and the trustworthiness and unbiaseness of the MSM is nothing but atrocious. That's the world we live in. it's our agenda driven MSM that caused every bit of this. They have themselves to blame for it all.

Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:23 pm to
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Dozens of suitcase nukes disappeared when the U.S.S.R. fell.


That is true. None have been used though, and depending on who got a hold of them I'm sure the CIA and other intelligence agencies have something to do with none being used.

All I'm saying is you would be surprised I promise you, as I was when I witnessed very similar scenarios and never heard a peep about it on the news anywhere.

The CIA knows a lot, and shipping stuff like this has been attempted and thwarted and we never hear a thing. I believe they would know exactly what container on exactly what ship and exactly when it left port.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45361 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:39 pm to
You know everyone says that if North Korea was able to detonate a nuke here then we would wipe them out. I am not so sure about that. Would we drop a nuke on NK knowing how it would effect South Korea? or Japan?
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:41 pm to
I don't know the answer, but you can limit radioactive fallout depending on altitude of the air burst, and still maximize destructive shockwave.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 6:42 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91257 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:45 pm to
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have a satellite up there...we aren't 100% sure what it's used for...



Probably nothing at all
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:47 pm to
Yes, I saw this in the documentary Dark Angel- it's also where we learned that Jessica Alba is a genetically engineered super soldier.
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