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Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:09 pm to tedmarkuson
quote:I've been saying for years that it was a mistake for liberals to believe the "demographics is destiny" line they'd been believing.
tedmarkuson
For it to be true, they had to assume whites wouldn't change their voting patterns even if Democrats became openly hostile towards them. That was a pretty strange assumption already.
The other false assumption they're making is that even their minority voting patterns will continue unabated.
If they aren't careful, they could easily create a white voting block that looks like the current black voting block while simultaneously watching minority voting blocks become slightly less reliable.
The latter IS destiny because let's be blunt here. The things they have to point to as "outrages" are getting sillier and sillier and yes, rational minorities DO notice that.
If the democrats looked up in 10 years and found themselves STILL dominating the black vote but only getting 80% of it, they wouldn't win another election for 50 years.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:09 pm to stewie
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You need to look on the mirror at your own party.
you mean my party that controls 33 governorship's, 31 state legislatures, the house and senate and the white house and is about to set the direction of the supreme court for the rest of your life.
it's funny cause when you posted that i'm sure you thought you were like....
when really you were like.....
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:12 pm to CamdenTiger
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Dems have forgotten the middle class, hardworking people. They have completely turned into the party of entitlements, racial divisions, and identity Politics.
Well put
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:13 pm to stewie
quote:Hell. It would almost be nice if they forgot us.
Dems have forgotten the middle class, hardworking people
They're openly HOSTILE to us.
Not that I haven't been saying for 30 years that this was the logical conclusion to their rhetoric.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:15 pm to tedmarkuson
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you mean my party that controls 33 governorship's, 31 state legislatures, the house and senate and the white house and is about to set the direction of the supreme court for the rest of your life.
Yes, right now, they do but the trend is moving in the opposite direction.
The Republican base is more passionate right now than ever but it's continually shrinking.
Look at the demographics trend buddy...sinking ship unless it moves closer to the center.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:19 pm to stewie
quote:What is your position on abortion?
stewie
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:20 pm to stewie
"sinking ship unless it moves closer to the center"
If I had a nickel for every time I heard this I would be a wealthier man.
Oh. And thanks for your genuine concern.
If I had a nickel for every time I heard this I would be a wealthier man.
Oh. And thanks for your genuine concern.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:21 pm to stewie
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The Republican base is more passionate right now than ever but it's continually shrinking.
all evidence to the contrary my man, and please spare me the bogus polls........MADAME PRESIDENT!
typical polling includes 24% republicans even though we control 33 governorship's, 31 legislatures, the house, the senate and the white house. in 2016 the republican house received 2 million more votes than house dems.
i guess that's the gerrymandering!
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:23 pm to LSU Jax
The sign that a given party in any democratic country is in dire need of rethinking what they are doing is when average, middle of the road, people begin saying things like "I didn't leave the Party, the Party left me."
It is most certainly happening to the Democrats right now, just as it has happened to the Republicans and Democrats in the past.
Policies that might be super appealing to folks in California might not sound so thrilling to folks in Iowa, and vice versa. What a party needs to be successful are policies that appeal to the entire country.
If the Democrats start concentrating on the concerns of middle America and making an effort to improve their lives they could reverse all of this in 8 years time.
Unfortunately for them right now they are stuck in the old saying "when you find yourself in a hole... stop digging" and they just can't bring themselves to put down that shovel.
It is most certainly happening to the Democrats right now, just as it has happened to the Republicans and Democrats in the past.
Policies that might be super appealing to folks in California might not sound so thrilling to folks in Iowa, and vice versa. What a party needs to be successful are policies that appeal to the entire country.
If the Democrats start concentrating on the concerns of middle America and making an effort to improve their lives they could reverse all of this in 8 years time.
Unfortunately for them right now they are stuck in the old saying "when you find yourself in a hole... stop digging" and they just can't bring themselves to put down that shovel.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:23 pm to stewie
quote:
Yes, right now, they do but the trend is moving in the opposite direction.
I highly doubt that considering polls continue to show that this next generation coming up (Generation Z) is the most conservative generation since World War II.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:24 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
What is your position on abortion?
Who am I to tell any particular woman that they should or shouldn't have an abortion.
I don't know their particular circumstances and issues around the pregnancy.
With that, pro choice but it doesn't fricking matter because the USSC had set judicial precedent that it's allowable under the law.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:25 pm to ShortyRob
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Being a white Democrat today makes as much sense as being a black supporter of George Wallace would have made.
Wallace overwhelmingly received the black vote in 1982.
He received over 30% in the primary and over 60% in the general election for Governor.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:26 pm to Arksulli
Trump didn't even get a majority vote...
Not that it matters because he won in the electoral college but don't start throwing around offices that were barely won.
Look at Texas...it's moving to the left.
Not that it matters because he won in the electoral college but don't start throwing around offices that were barely won.
Look at Texas...it's moving to the left.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:26 pm to stewie
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With that, pro choice but it doesn't fricking matter because the USSC had set judicial precedent that it's allowable under the law.
Judicial precedent can be ignored. See Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education, just to name one instance.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:28 pm to Loserman
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Wallace overwhelmingly received the black vote in 1982.
He received over 30% in the primary and over 60% in the general election for Governor.
You are lowballing those figures. He won 90% of the black vote in the general election that year.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:28 pm to Eightballjacket
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because of demographic changes in our country, the leftists have seized control.
I agree, hence, why I am leaving the party.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:28 pm to HubbaBubba
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There is no Democrats party right now. It is a leftist party not resembling anything like the Democrats of even 15 years ago.
This is why I have respect for Jim Webb. While I don't politically align with him, he is an old school democrat that focuses on real issues and he's not some leftist identity politics shrill.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:29 pm to stewie
I agree with that stance on abortion. Just make it not be forced on the insurance to cover unless the mothers life is in jeopardy, rape, incest.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:29 pm to stewie
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I'm a lifelong registered Dem that's moving independent...
I made that step during the Clinton administration.
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