re: LA Constitutional Carry Bill is Back (HB68)

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dawg23

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We've engaged in argument over this topic before and you made your position abundantly clear. You were incapable of factually defending your position, which is fine, but leaves me no desire to debate it further.

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Gun education is either good, or bad.

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The distinction you aren't quite grasping here is that gun education is good, gov't mandated gun educated is not good.

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So, where's all the outrage over Hunter Safety classes?

Gun education is either good, or bad.

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Just chiming in from the peanut gallery.

I'm not a hunter, so I'm not very current on this, but I'm closing in on 50 soon. Last I knew, I was grandfathered in, and the classes aren't mandatory for me
---*just checked, and I'm correct. I was born in '68, so while I agree classes would be helpful, I legally can choose to forgo them, and still get a license.

While I concede that there are likely more people younger than me (or specifically, the "born on Sept 1 1969 or later" crew), there's a sizable chunk of the state population that is my age or older. For myself and people in that same boat, the class is a personal decision, not a binding law.

I would say Constitutional Carry should fall into the same premise as my personal situation, legally.

Hunting SHOULD have education available, for those new to it (like I would be). Not only are there a lot of rules and regulations as to what you can hunt, with what, at what times (that would need to be learned obviously), but the actual intent is different than carrying for protection...

hunters, I would assume, go out and INTEND to shoot something. You're looking for something to shoot.

If you choose to carry (CCW), it's incumbent on you to be aware of the laws, as to where you can carry, and under what circumstances you can draw or discharge your gun legally. No argument there. But a normal citizen carrying isn't looking to shoot someone or something, he/she has that option available to protect themselves. You can do it in your home and car; and I have to believe there's a lot of people who already do just that, and are quite aware of consequences if they do it wrongly, and choose to own a gun without taking classes. Completely legally. They're not shooting the meter readers on their property, or the beggars approaching them at red lights; I don't see how you can infer that they would suddenly go apeshit if they're allowed to carry on their person.

And honestly, those current gun owners who don't have the CCW license are the ones most likely to consider the transition to carrying. If someone doesn't already own a gun, they're unlikely to go get one for the sole reason of carrying "just because".

added- I have a couple of friends my age who do hunt, and I know for sure a couple never took any official class. They grew up with it, they know the ins and outs, they stay current with all the details they need to be able to enjoy themselves. These guys know what they're doing, and I consider them a lot safer- and better hunters most likely, as they get their share- than some early 20's guy who sat through a day's course. That's not to demean the classes, but to point out that attending a couple days of training don't make you an expert on something, and not attending doesn't automatically make you incompetent.