re: Mensch claiming Carter Page took tape with Trump on it making deal with Russia

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Like an 8 track? Reel to reel?

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Hillary, is that you?!

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quote: And how would that being any different than Barry being caught on tape telling the Russians, that if he is re-elected he can be more flexible with them?????? H

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Clearly, it is very different, are you kidding? #1.Barry, was the POTUS at the time of that tape and had every right to negotiate with a foreign power. Yeah, it's not 100% upfront, but it's not illegal. #2.This current story seems ridiculous, but following the argument, allegedly the exchange in question would ultimately result in the Russians agreeing to manipulate the U.S. elections so that Donald Duck could win.

No argument can equate what Barrack did to what Donald allegedly did. Trump was allegedly trying to use a hostile power to manipulate an election and Obama was simply negotiating as POTUS. They are so far apart from each other they are not even close.

This is what is wrong with this country, people, and it seems especially Republicans, are so colored by their political leanings they no longer care about truth. Your argument is a good example, but here is an even better one.

Percentage who supported bombing Syria:

Year | dem | GOP
2013 | 37% | 22%
2017 | 38% | 86%

The only difference between 2013 and 2017 was the president at the time. Dems felt pretty much the same way no matter who was president, whereas the GOP, a different story. I was an independent up until this year.
Now it is very clear who really cares about truth and who does not.

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Clearly, it is very different, are you kidding? #1.Barry, was the POTUS at the time of that tape and had every right to negotiate with a foreign power.

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But he wasn't negotiating. he clearly said if he got elected he could be more flexible. That isn't negotiations. That is a statement.

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allegedly the exchange in question would ultimately result in the Russians agreeing to manipulate the U.S. elections so that Donald Duck could win.

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So, preceding an election if Obama says "If I am elected I can be more flexible in regards to policies concerning you." it means nothing.

If Trump says the same thing it means the Russians should manipulate the elections?

I'm confused why it didn't mean Obama was asking the Russians to manipulate the elections but it did for Trump? Can you clarify that, please?

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No argument can equate what Barrack did to what Donald allegedly did. Trump was allegedly trying to use a hostile power to manipulate an election and Obama was simply negotiating as POTUS.

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Obama was not negotiating....he made a statement. negotiations require quid pro quo. What was Obama getting in return for saying he could be more flexible with the Russians if he were reelected?

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Now it is very clear who really cares about truth and who does not.

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Really. Wow. Let me see. Where do we start.

When the DNC was trying to fix their own primary so Hillary would win and Bernie sanders would lose....was that caring about the truth, or not?

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just so we're clear. an analog delivery system is vastly superior in this situation to a digital copy that will leave footprints along the devices. ASSUMING this is possible, if Page never copied that tape, then he could easily dispose of the tape when his mission was over and it could never be traced. this is not true with a digital copy. THIS part of the theory isn't some joke

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Just so we're clear. This isn't a theory. It's some idiot spouting bullshite based on nothing.

I mean do we even have Trump's grandma shouting ot " I was there when Trump made that tape in Kenya?" or anything like that?

Anonymous sources with ridiculous claims seem to be more and more reported as legitimate news. And the MSM wonders why the public has turned on them. Obviously this would not probably qualify as a legit source, but CNN reporting something like this these days would not be unexpected.

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Is this the smoking gun for impeachment? Lots of chatter this weekend but have yet to hear what the smoking gun actually is.

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A recording. If it exists, yes. This would guarantee the end of the Trump presidency. But that's the big question right now.

Louise Mensch is a "red-under-every-bed" conspiracy theorist. Some of the stupid shite she posts on Twitter is reminiscent of Alex Jones.

The one thing that gives me pause regarding this claim is the fact that she managed to sniff out the FISA warrants on the banks well before anyone else, and this was later verified by BBC and the Guardian. That means she probably has some reliable sources within the intelligence community and they may have passed her this info. But, as a liberal, this is not the hill I would choose to die on.

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You lose whatever credibility you had with me when you choose to run with a mensch story/theory.

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I am not a big fan of ms. mensch, but she isn't a hack in the slightest. She does have an agenda, and that agenda is against trump. She is pretty damn conservative, and quite well respected.

Yaap

She isn't a hack? She accused wieners victim of colluding with Russia to plant his photos on her phone.