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re: Former intel officer confirms to CNN that US IC was using Brits to get around US law

Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:41 am to
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Hey. You brought up people being ganged up on; I didn't.
Well you misread that post entirely. You started whining about how I received derision from you for giving you shite or something. I mentioned that I didn't realize people took umbrage when they received assholish responses to their own assholish behavior, and sardonically qualified that I always assumed it was because of political disagreement.

But I don't lament the old give-and-take; I like it (in case you didn't notice).

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It's a political board. Opinions are kind of the thing in here. Glad I could help clear up something else for ya.
That's some heavy stuff, Shorty. You should be on the lecture circuit.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:44 am to
Keep melting man. You are the reason why we play the game. Seeing that facade fade away into the nasty woman you are is priceless.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:46 am to
My statement was "we push back to keep it fun"
I am good.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
22020 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:52 am to
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Just like Benghazi another Republican CT witch hunt.



You mean the same Benghazi investigation that found actual criminal wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton?

If Hillary was practically ANY other American she would be in Federal Lockup.

That is a fact!
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:00 pm to
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indication is that the higher-ups in the Obama Administration wanted nothing to do with this

Hey Sport, how come Obama didn't notify A PRIVATE US citizen that he had knowledge that the citizen was under surveillance by a foreign govt?

Why did they read the transcripts, AND THEN, pass them around, if they wanted nothing to do with it?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:03 pm to
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The man was being groomed by KGB agents since the 1980s

By never having him run for public office? You're a lunatic!
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:10 pm to
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This is an FBI investigation...

As was Hillarys emails

And Anthony Weiners sexting

And Lois Lerner

JBE's brother the sheriff

The FBI have anything in those cases? They sure do like to investigate. Too dumb to find anything, doe
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:13 pm to
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For frick's sake. The man (ie: Trump) was being groomed by KGB agents since the 1980s


Wow, I used to think you were somewhat intelligent. Now I realize you are just off your fricking rocker.

On second thought, I cannot believe that the USA has elected TWO MANCHURIAN CANDIDATES, back-to-back.

Barry and Drumpf......... Whe have been Catfished.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:15 pm to
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That was at the point where some of you hardheaded jokers wouldn't even concede that Russia had tried to interfere in the election. I threw out the (accurate) point that "yes they did, and it isn't the first time."

We now have more evidence that Brit intel tried to influence the election for Hillary, way more than we have on any Russian influence. Where's the faux outrage on that?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:20 pm to
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We now have more evidence that Brit intel tried to influence the election for Hillary, way more than we have on any Russian influence.
No, we don't. We have evidence that the UK, our strongest ally, was concerned about contacts between prominent Americans and various persons with ties to the Kremlin--our most pressing adversary.

Maybe you see some equivalence between the Russian Federation and the UK that you can explain to me.

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Where's the faux outrage on that?
No outrage. Just a concerned American.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:29 pm to
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was concerned about contacts between prominent Americans and various persons with ties to the Kremlin

Zero evidence

Name one person that was even with Trump in May 2015? If you can't, then you have zero evidence

And all we know from Carter was he met spies at an energy conference, and gave them a business card. Which is what one does at a conference
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Name one person that was even with Trump in May 2015? If you can't, then you have zero evidence


The UK, and our other friends and allies, routinely collect on agents of the Russian Federation. Intercepts that interested them in 2015 would not need to specifically involve formal members of the Trump campaign. They could include Trump associates or possible campaign surrogates, or business and other connections within the Russian Federation. And let me reiterate that these incidental intercepts we keep referring to would likely be inclusive of conversations that simply referred or alluded to Trump, his businesses, his campaign, his associates etc. They needn't all have someone closely affiliated with the campaign on one end of the call. They could be transcripts of two Russians discussing some development of interest.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47812 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:02 pm to
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For frick's sake. The man was being groomed by KGB agents since the 1980s ( LINK):


Damn Doc, Paige really did a number on your psyche. This is next level lunacy.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:08 pm to
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The UK, and our other friends and allies, routinely collect on agents of the Russian Federation. Intercepts that interested them in 2015 would not need to specifically involve formal members of the Trump campaign.

Once again, there is no evidence of that. In fact, we have the complete opposite. GCHQ has said it is "utterly ridiculous" to suspect they conducted any surveillance of Trump or his team!

????
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:10 pm to
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GCHQ has said it is "utterly ridiculous" to suspect they conducted any surveillance of Trump or his team!

No they did not. Quit making things up.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:19 pm to
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No they did not. Quit making things up.

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“Recent allegations made by media commentator judge Andrew Napolitano about GCHQ being asked to conduct ‘wiretapping’ against the then president-elect are nonsense. They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.”



Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:42 pm to
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being asked
Words matter

Whistles.. Bing
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111787 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:47 pm to
You're just digging, dude. Give up.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Words matter

Yes, they do. The Brits fed the US intel on Trump for almost 2 years (May '15 to Jan '17), and not one time was asked to stop spying on American citizens? Not once

So silence, matters a lot too

Yet, GCHQ said it was utterly ridiculous to think they were providing surveillance to Obama. They lied. So why would you believe them when they said they "weren't asked"?


cha ching...bada bing
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:54 pm to
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Once again, there is no evidence of that. In fact, we have the complete opposite. GCHQ has said it is "utterly ridiculous" to suspect they conducted any surveillance of Trump or his team!
They did not.

They were monitoring some guys with connections to Moscow in the conduct of their routine activities. Not really their fault that some in "Trump's team" were so keen on playing beer pong with that particular crowd, is it?

Trying to be relatable just there since the whole "incidental collection" thing seems to be a hard concept for some.

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