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re: Another massive lie we've been fed about nutrition-Excess salt intake causes heart disease
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:44 pm to colorchangintiger
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:44 pm to colorchangintiger
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I've cut carbs to < 20/day
I really have to do this. I've had a really difficult time since my mom passed and it's showing. Vacation next week, then back to the grind.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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I post that I'll trust my cardiologist over said "freelance science writer".
Do you seriously not understand that this writer is simply reporting the data that researchers have found? It's not just her opinion that she came up with.
Do you know what a meta-analysis is? It's a comprehensive compilation of dozens of research papers on a specific topic. It's considered the gold standard of evidence in science.
So it's not your doctor's opinion vs this journalist's opinion, or my opinion. It's what your doctor has been told vs the data compiled by thousands of scientists who have committed their careers to studying this specific subject.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:46 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Mo Jeaux
I guess in addition to knowing more than my doctors, you likewise know more than the FDA and the American Heart Society as well....
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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration recommends that individuals consume no more than 2,300 milligrams of sodium per day, and that certain groups limit intake to 1,500 milligrams per day.
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The American Heart Association recommends no more than 2,300 milligrams (mgs) a day and an ideal limit of no more than 1,500 mg per day for most adults.
LINK
You're a fricking genius.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:49 pm to Darth_Vader
Yes darth, those are the guidelines we're referring to
The point is that they were not based on reliable data. Which has been the case numerous times in medicine.
The point is that they were not based on reliable data. Which has been the case numerous times in medicine.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:49 pm to colorchangintiger
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1,500/day
Mannnn frick that noise.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:50 pm to Mo Jeaux
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No way.
I'm just providing responses commensurate to the statements to which I'm responding.
No POSTER is more combative than LNCHBOX. NONE.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:52 pm to Darth_Vader
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I guess in addition to knowing more than my doctors, you likewise know more than the FDA and the American Heart Society as well....
What are you babbling about?
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You're a fricking genius.
Seriously, what are you babbling about? I would say I will wait around for you to quote me where I said otherwise, but it wouldn't be worth it, because I never did such a thing.
Hope you didn't hurt your hand knocking the shite out of that straw man though.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:53 pm to Darth_Vader
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You're worse than LUNCHBOX. Just looking for the slightest thing to nitpick and argue about.
Says the guy who did just that exact thing itt.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:53 pm to Grim
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The point is that they were not based on reliable data. Which has been the case numerous times in medicine
All because of one article you read on the internet. Now suddenly years of medical and scientific study is now wrong in your eyes.
Well, that settles it. You read it on the internet so it's got to be true. Any why? Because science. It says so right there in the article. They got science. And you can't argue with science. Right?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:53 pm to mikelbr
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No POSTER is more combative than LNCHBOX. NONE.
Amen. DisplacedBuckeye has tried to reach for the crown, but it will take a lot to dethrone LNCHBOX.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:54 pm to Grim
Darth is more accustomed to copy/pasting articles to pass off as his own posts than he is to reading them.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:55 pm to LSU Patrick
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Table salt contributes very little sodium to a daily diet.
It is 40% sodium. Right?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:56 pm to Titus Pullo
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Darth is more accustomed to copy/pasting articles to pass off as his own posts than he is to reading them.
You're a liar, sir. A filthy, worthless, no good, pussified liar.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:56 pm to Grim
OP is wrong. But even worse than that, he'll never admit or realize that he's wrong. Nothing can overcome his confirmation bias. In reality, the evidence supporting salt as a contributor to high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, etc. is much greater and more convincing than the evidence against it.
quote:Not true at all. The evidence is overwhelming actually.
how little evidence there is of a connection between salt and hypertension, and the related heart diseases
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:57 pm to Grim
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Do you know what a meta-analysis is? It's a comprehensive compilation of dozens of research papers on a specific topic. It's considered the gold standard of evidence in science.
Can you post the actual meta-analysis
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vs the data compiled by thousands of scientists who have committed their careers to studying this specific subject.
It was a meta-analysis of 7 studies and 6,250 subjects.
You're overstating what the meta-analysis actually said based on the article.
Also, what about strokes?
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:57 pm to Grim
thread peaked here:
talked in a complete circle, contradicted himself, but still managed to get two people to reply with "Exactly."
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You could salt your food as much as you want, it's processed food that gets you. All that sodium and added sugar is terrible for you.
talked in a complete circle, contradicted himself, but still managed to get two people to reply with "Exactly."
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:58 pm to Darth_Vader
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Not only do I understand it, I've lived through it.
I thought you died first?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:58 pm to Patrick_Bateman
But you don't understand. There was an article. And it was on the internet. And they said science. They have science. Don't you know when you read it on the internet and it says science then its got to be true?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:59 pm to Darth_Vader
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Then you're reading comprehension sucks. That's your problem, not mine.
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