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re: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D - The Framework
Posted on 5/11/17 at 6:42 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 5/11/17 at 6:42 pm to ProjectP2294
I think the best part of this season came when Ophelia snapped when Fitz eluded he was going back to Simmons. She went bat shite crazy
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 5/11/17 at 7:24 pm to lagallifrey
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I doubt Fitz killed her. Aida probably did to take her place in his life.
She loves him and is crazy. If she's a decent villain, she got him to kill her.
Posted on 5/11/17 at 11:53 pm to TeddyPadillac
Agents of Shield renewed for Season 5. Sounds like a full renewal.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 8:57 am to LoneMDG
Could Super-Aida tie into the Inhumans movie? I'm really interested in how they're going to handle the introduction of the Royal Family. Where have they been during the whole AOS timeline?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 8:58 am to TeddyPadillac
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She loves him and is crazy. If she's a decent villain, she got him to kill her.
She wasn't crazy at that point. Framework Aida was cold and calculating as an android would be. Living Aida is a fricking nutjob. Whereas normal people grow into emotions, she's getting them all at one time.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:23 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Could Super-Aida tie into the Inhumans movie?
No. But the inhuman show, possibly. I think ghost rider will take care of her though.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 9:24 am to Galactic Inquisitor
correct, she was cold and calculating as an android, which is why she got Fitz to kill Simmons. Fitz wouldn't have even known who she was when he would have killed her.
Framework Aida wanted out of the framework and to be a real human, and as she said, she learned as an android what Fitz and Jemma had and wanted that for her human self.
If she kills Jemma, Fitz would never be with Aida. If Fitz killed her, that's quite the problem.
Framework Aida wanted out of the framework and to be a real human, and as she said, she learned as an android what Fitz and Jemma had and wanted that for her human self.
If she kills Jemma, Fitz would never be with Aida. If Fitz killed her, that's quite the problem.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:50 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Well, Attilan is either in the Himalayas or on the Moon...
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:06 pm to TeddyPadillac
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correct, she was cold and calculating as an android, which is why she got Fitz to kill Simmons. Fitz wouldn't have even known who she was when he would have killed her.
Framework Aida wanted out of the framework and to be a real human, and as she said, she learned as an android what Fitz and Jemma had and wanted that for her human self.
If she kills Jemma, Fitz would never be with Aida. If Fitz killed her, that's quite the problem.
Apparently Fitz and Aida/Olphelia met the first day at the Shield Academy in Framework (same time Fitz met Simmons in real world). What is not clear is when was Simmons shot? 2 theories
1. Simmons was shot just before Aida met Fitz in order for Aida to meet Fitz on day 1 instead of Simmons.
2. Simmons was shot sometime after resisting Hydra.
Scenario 1 seems much more logical since Fitz seemed to not recognize Simmons in the Framework.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:01 pm to STEVED00
I thought Simmons was killed during the massacre at the academy. That's when real world Simmons entered the Framework, she was in a mass grave.
Fitz didn't recognize her because she was just a random person at the academy.
Fitz didn't recognize her because she was just a random person at the academy.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:18 pm to Darkknight
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I thought Simmons was killed during the massacre at the academy. That's when real world Simmons entered the Framework, she was in a mass grave.
Fitz didn't recognize her because she was just a random person at the academy.
But Aida also had to prevent Fitz/Simmons from meeting at the academy. IMO it was implied that Aida/Ophelia met Fitz at the exact time Fitz would've met Simmons at the academy. Something had to be done to insert Aida in place of Simmons.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:21 pm to STEVED00
found this nugget, so yeah i guess Fitz didn't kill her.
If he had to ask, then i would assume he knew nothing about it. Jemma's official death was from toxic contamination at the academy, but Fitz learned that isnt' what really happen.
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Fitz discovers that Simmons was executed at the academy and asks Madame Hydra about it. Ophelia tells him that Simmons crossed over from the other side, which they believed was impossible.
If he had to ask, then i would assume he knew nothing about it. Jemma's official death was from toxic contamination at the academy, but Fitz learned that isnt' what really happen.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:12 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Great season. Really enjoyed the three arc format. Obvious question now is what's up with coulson?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 1:29 am to LoneMDG
I can just see the three arcs now:
Arc 1 - Agents of S.W.O.R.D.
Arc 2 - Agents of Nova
Arc 3 - Road to Infinity
Arc 1 - Agents of S.W.O.R.D.
Arc 2 - Agents of Nova
Arc 3 - Road to Infinity
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:02 am to CGSC Lobotomy
The way the man FX guy on SHIELD says, sounds like "SWORD" belongs to Fox, as it's 1st appearance was in an XMen comic (one written by Joss Whedon, of all people)
"Rights" instead of "writes"
Which also makes me wonder what else they'll change to the Captain Marvel character, whenever they finally get to that movie.
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Mark Kolpack? @MarkKolpack
Nope. Writes belong to Fox. S.W.O.R.D. was first introduced in Astonishing X-Men vol. 3 # 6
"Rights" instead of "writes"
Which also makes me wonder what else they'll change to the Captain Marvel character, whenever they finally get to that movie.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:21 am to LoneMDG
Didn't Ego belong to Fox as well?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:56 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I don't think so. Ego first appeared in Thor and has been in a few issues of Thor since.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 8:40 am to lagallifrey
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No. But the inhuman show, possibly
Yeah, I totally missed that they were doing a show vs. a movie.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 9:03 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Didn't Ego belong to Fox as well?
The bigger question coming out of GOTG2 was how does Marvel get to use the Watcher. That's a firm FF character. At least for many years early on he was.
I enjoyed the finale last night. Left the crew united but screwed up. It sucked that Ward didn't come back though. One of the best characters the show has and even with an easy way to write him back in, they didn't go for it.
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