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re: Liberals & Anti-Trumpers: What's More Important to You? Trump Failing or a Prosperous USA?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:42 pm to KCT
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:42 pm to KCT
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With regards to this thread, it's a hypothetical. We're only 2 months into Trump's presidency. So the relevant question is (For anti-Trumpers), do you want Trump to fail no matter what, or do you hope against hope that he succeeds?
As an Anti-Trumper (full disclosure: I'd be an anti-Clinton too) I hope he succeeds. Just like I wanted Obama to succeed.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:46 pm to KCT
I'll be honest. I want Trump to fail. I want his administration to fail. I'm not worried about this country thriving under his leadership so the question is moot.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:51 pm to KCT
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That man EARNED every critical thing I ever said about him, and I was totally vindicated in my assessment of him
So when he brought this country back from a recession did you give him credit? When he oversaw tremendous job growth and a robust stock market did you give him credit??
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:52 pm to KCT
Thread presumes a definition of "thrive" that is both value-neutral and wholly controlled by POTUS
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:52 pm to KCT
Prosperous USA. However, if he's pushing policy I don't agree with then of course I want him to fail. At least in regards to that particular policy.
It was the same with Obama, Bush and so on.
It was the same with Obama, Bush and so on.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:52 pm to Toddy
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I'll be honest. I want Trump to fail. I want his administration to fail. I'm not worried about this country thriving under his leadership so the question is moot
There it is folks. Typical lib mindset. Trump fail at all costs and frick this country and all of it's people.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:52 pm to KCT
I remember the idiots who screamed that Rush Limbaugh wanted the US to fail, when he said that he wanted Obamas agenda to fail
Now its OK to not only want Trump to fail, but have him removed from office. And supposedly the country will survive
Now its OK to not only want Trump to fail, but have him removed from office. And supposedly the country will survive
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:54 pm to bencoleman
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There it is folks. Typical lib mindset. Trump fail at all costs and frick this country and all of it's people.
Sorta how you felt about Obama, exactly ;-).
Posted on 3/28/17 at 6:54 pm to Toddy
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I'll be honest. I want Trump to fail. I want his administration to fail. I'm not worried about this country thriving under his leadership so the question is moot.
It's fine to oppose someone because you think their policies will fail, but you should always choose a successful nation over a failing one, regardless of which policy is currently in place.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:01 pm to Toddy
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This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:02 pm to Toddy
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I'll be honest. I want Trump to fail
If nothing else, I respect your honesty.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:06 pm to asurob1
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Sorta how you felt about Obama, exactly
I think in the beginning most people were hopeful but as obama gradually showed his true and depraved colors I like most people that love this country opposed him due to his blatant anti-american agenda.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:06 pm to Celery
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Prosperous USA. However, if he's pushing policy I don't agree with then of course I want him to fail. At least in regards to that particular policy.
Exactly. That's why I said earlier that, imo, the measuring stick here is largely the economy & jobs. For example, it can't be the Supreme Court choices because some people would prefer a conservative SCOTUS, while others would prefer a more liberal SCOTUS.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:09 pm to bencoleman
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I think in the beginning most people were hopeful
Around here?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:10 pm to bencoleman
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I think in the beginning most people were hopeful but as obama gradually showed his true and depraved colors I like most people that love this country opposed him due to his blatant anti-american agenda.
We both know that isn't true. But then again most folks around here still believe he was born in Kenya.
Frankly, I'd like to see Trump serve out all four years. After the first 70 days or so...watching spicer try to explain the latest Trumpism has become must see tv.
The country has dealt with shitty presidents before and will again. The nation will be just fine.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:15 pm to asurob1
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The country has dealt with shitty presidents before and will again. The nation will be just fine.
I agree. We just survived one of the worst ever.
Good call, asurob.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:19 pm to KCT
I'm not a liberal, but Trump will not make the US more prosperous than we already are.
We're already one of the most wealthy nations, and the single most powerful and influential nation in the world. Trump has, thus far, sullied our image amongst our allies.
We're already one of the most wealthy nations, and the single most powerful and influential nation in the world. Trump has, thus far, sullied our image amongst our allies.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:33 pm to dmjones
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I'm not a liberal,
bullshite
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:35 pm to dmjones
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Trump has, thus far, sullied our image amongst our allies.
lolwut?
ETA: Clarified my lolwut
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:36 pm to KCT
Better life for me and my kids. No president can do that.
Politics are spectator sports more than anything substantial.
Politics are spectator sports more than anything substantial.
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