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re: Liberals & Anti-Trumpers: What's More Important to You? Trump Failing or a Prosperous USA?

Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:32 pm to
The Trumpkins on TD bought it because everything he says is gospel to them.

And nowhere is the correct answer. There will be no wall. They've already said they are willing to postpone it for the sake of passing the budget. That's code for not happening.
Posted by chRxis
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Member since Feb 2008
24627 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:10 pm to
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bullshite, the Republicans never tried to overthrow or undermine Obama's presidency


Bills obstructed or filibustered:
1.) Tax on Companies that ship jobs overseas- A bill that would have eliminated a tax break that companies get when they ship jobs overseas. Republicans blocked this, allowing companies to keep the tax break they receive when they ship jobs to other countries.
2.) Political Ad disclosure bill- Would have required all donors to political campaigns to reveal themselves. Republicans blocked this, not once but twice.
3.) Subpoena Power for the Committee investigating the BP Oil Spill – Give subpoena power to the independent committee responsible for investigating BP’s roll in the oil spill. Republicans attempted to block this.
4.) The Small Business Jobs Act -would give LOCAL, community banks access to billions of dollars to loan to small businesses. Republicans blocked this, then attempted to block it a second time and failed.
5.) The DREAM Act- Gives immigrant youth who were brought here as children a path to citizenship by earning a college degree or serving the military for 2 years. Republicans blocked this.
6.) Repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”- Would have repealed the law that forces gay and lesbian services members to lie about their sexuality and gives the military the right to discharge soldiers based on their sexuality. Republicans blocked this many times and Democrats were finally able to pass it with the support of just 2 Republicans.
7.) Senator Franken’s Anti-Rape Amendment to the Defense Appropriations Bill – Makes it so that women raped overseas while working for foreign contractors have the right to have their case heard in an American court instead of having their case mediated by the company they work for. Only Republican men voted against this, but it passed.
8.) Benefits for Homeless Veterans- Would have expanded benefits to homeless veterans and homeless veterans with children. Republicans blocked this.
9.) Affordable Health Care For America Act- Prevents insurance companies from discriminating against you on the basis of “pre-existing conditions”. Requires that insurance companies spend 85 cents of every dollar that you pay on your actual health care. Limits health insurance companies profit margins. Republicans blocked this for months before it finally passed and have vowed to repeal it if they are elected.
10.) Health Care for the 9/11 First Responders who got sick from being at Ground Zero- Would provide billions of dollars in health care to help the 9/11 First Responders who were at Ground Zero on 9/11 and are now sick because of it. Republicans blocked this.
11.) The Jobs Bill- Offsets the payroll tax for 1 year for companies that hire new employees, or people receiving unemployment insurance. Also gives other tax incentives to companies hiring new employees. Republicans attempted to block this.
12.) Wall Street Reform- Puts stricter regulations on the banks, preventing them from becoming “too big to fail”. Curbs reckless spending practices that caused the banking crisis. Republicans attempted to block this.
13.) American Recovery and Reinvestment Act- Pumped billions of dollars into state and local Governments to prevent us from sinking into a second Great Depression. Republicans opposed this but now want to take credit for the parts of it that we know are successful.
14.) Oil Spill Liability- Raises the liability on what companies can be made to pay to clean up after an oil spill. Republicans blocked this.
15.) Immigration Reform- Republican suggested comprehensive immigration reform until Obama supported it. Now they’re rabidly opposed to it and even voted against their own legislation. Republicans blocked this.
16.) Unemployment extension bill HR-4213- Would provide additional aid to the millions of Americans still on unemployment who are just trying to support themselves and their families. Republicans blocked this bill for 8 weeks before it finally passed. Republicans blocked this for 8 weeks before it finally passed.
17.) Fair Pay Act of 2009- Also called the Lily Ledbetter bill. Requires that women receive equal compensation to men for doing the same work. Republicans attempted to block this.
18.) No permanent military bases in Afghanistan.
19.) Report identifying hybrid or electric propulsion systems and other fuel-saving technologies for incorporation into tactical motor vehicles.
20.) Protection of child custody arrangements for parents who are members of the 21.) Armed Forces deployed in support of a contingency operation.
Improvements to Department of Defense domestic violence programs.
22.) Department of Defense recognition of spouses of members of the Armed Forces.
23.) Department of Defense recognition of children of members of the Armed Forces.
24.) Enhancements to the Troops-to-Teachers Program.
25.) Fiscal year 2011 increase in military basic pay.
26.) Improving aural protection for members of the Armed Forces.
27.) Comprehensive policy on neurocognitive assessment by the military health care system.
28.) Authority to make excess nonlethal supplies available for domestic emergency assistance.

Don't forget them enacting the so-called "Hastert Rule", and Merrick Garland for SC

Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:22 pm to
Trump is rolling back all regulations that he can on Environment. In fact he made it possible in an executive order to dump wastes into the rivers near by construction sites now. Please tell me how that is good for the country. He tried to ban people from coming into this country despite all the data put together from our intelligence departments say that it doesn't work. His budget called for dropping funding into almost ALL public Art programs for Children and teens. How is that good for the country? He wants to gut education for the public. How is that good for the country? He's going to let congress give away all of our privacy to the highest bid. Plus he wants to defund all clean energy initiatives despite it being a bigger industry and providing more jobs than any other energy industry. He wants to take the clean energy money and put it back into coal which is dying more every day and bad for the environment. Only because Oil Companies thrive off of the de-regulating of the coal industry. He doesn't do things for the better of the country, he does things for the better of the top 1%. And before someone comes in here and uses Hilary Clinton as a counter-argument. I don't like her either. You people say changes need to be made, but Obama got the unemployment rate LOWER than what Romney or any other candidate even thought was possible! So the Economy is in great shape, yet people think there needs to be drastic changes. People don't want drastic changes for the better of the country, they want them so they can get tax cuts. So please tell me how he is making America better. And yes of course I would give him props if America started thriving. But America has only become more uneasy since he got into office. Not to mention his 35% approval rating. So someone please give me actual counter arguments, rather than yelling "libtards" or "cuck" every other sentence.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
265952 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:24 pm to
Going against some of trumps ideas are what's best for America.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
24627 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

So someone please give me actual counter arguments, rather than yelling "libtards" or "cuck" every other sentence.

quote:

Going against some of trumps ideas are what's best for America.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 7:28 pm
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
27049 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:32 pm to
I hope Trump fails. I have nothing against the man personally, but his policies if fully implemented will stifle American prosperity
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
265952 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:34 pm to
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but his policies if fully implemented will stifle American prosperity


Which ones?
Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:35 pm to
Please refer to my comment earlier in this page
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
24627 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:41 pm to
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I have nothing against the man personally

and this is where i have the most disdain for him... i cannot respect him, as a person, one iota... i will respect the office he holds, but there are so many adjectives i could use to characterize him, but i don't have the time... gotta pack for California tomorrow... 1st vacation in quite a while... can't wait
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 7:43 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
265952 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

Please refer to my comment earlier in this page


A lot of hyperbole.
Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:44 pm to
Except half of it he has already gone through with...
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:20 pm to
Not one of those refuted my post. You obviously put effort into a failure of a post. You didn't address the point I was making at all.


Fail.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

So someone please give me actual counter arguments, rather than yelling "libtards" or "cuck" every other sentence.


But, would you still BE okay w/people of your political persuasion pretending that any conservative with an opinion is simply regurgitating what they heard on FOX News?

That gets kind of old, especially for someone like myself who hates the GOP Establishment ideology being dispensed on a regular basis by approximately 50% of the talking heads on FOX (Karl Rove, Brit Hume, Shep Smith, Chris Wallace, formerly George Will, etc.).
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:55 pm to
Trump failing, at least on this board. And so far he has. I've seen way too many posters here state that they don't care what he does as long as he gets under the skin of liberals. You know, #winning and all?
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 8:56 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
24627 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:57 pm to
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Not one of those refuted my post.

so, in your estimation, obstruction of policy and filibustering by the Democrats would NOT be undermining Trump's agenda, correct?

This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 9:06 pm
Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:01 pm to
What the frick does that have to do with anything? All I asked for was an actual argument using facts and sources. Not name-calling.
Posted by RBu
Birmingham
Member since Mar 2014
301 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:07 pm to
Republicans attempted to block everything Obama ever did. Are you really that blind? Every single one of those were proof. Why do you think he started using executive orders? Ted demon Cruz shut down the fricking government to block Obama. Try not to be ignorant when asking for facts.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 10:16 pm to
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RBu


You dumbfrick the Democrats are actively trying to destroy Trump's presidency. You ignorant frick. The Republicans obstructed not even close to the same. You ignorant motherfricker.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
24627 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:13 am to
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The Republicans obstructed not even close to the same

293 days Republicans stonewalled President Barack Obama’s nomination of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court before the Senate term expired...
Two years into President Barack Obama's first term, then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell made an ominous declaration: Republicans' "single most important" priority was making Obama a failed president...

Declared they would not allow a hearing or vote on President Obama’s nominee to replace Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court. It doesn’t matter who Obama choses (he hasn’t nominated anybody yet), because conservative interests groups plotted months ago to cow GOP lawmakers.

Refused to meet with Obama’s budget director to discuss the president’s annual budget. The snub, the first of its kind in decades, came before Obama submitted his budget.

Rejected with obnoxious relish the president’s plan to close the post-9/11 prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, after demanding the White House submit such a plan. Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas had himself filmed throwing the document into the trash.

Unified obstruction has been the sole Republican strategy since President Obama took office. According to David Frum, speech writer for former President George W. Bush, there was going to be “[n]o negotiations, no compromise, nothing” with the Democrats.

All that mattered, former Ohio Senator George Voinovich stated, was that “[i]f [Obama] was for it, we had to be against it.” A couple years after Obama took office, Mike Lofgren, former Republican Congressional staffer, described the GOP’s envisioned end-game of grinding the government to a halt.

Jon Perr commented that, in 2013, the GOP “had filibustered 27 of Obama’s executive branch nominees, compared to just seven during Dubya’s eight years in office.” They also blocked legislation at twice the rate than the previous Congress and filed twice as many clotures motions.

Chuck Hagel became the first defense secretary nominee ever filibustered.

quote:

You ignorant motherfricker.

you were saying?
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:20 am to
Calling someone ignorant while being completely wrong? Priceless.
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