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LSU catchers
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:28 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:28 am
Where can one find the stats on our catchers in regards to times they have thrown out a base runner stealing vs. not?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:34 am to GeismarGeauxer
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:49 am to LSURussian
Thanks.
So Pap has thrown out 11 of 18 and Coomes has thrown out 1 of 3.
We need some more data points on Coomes and/or Romero.
So Pap has thrown out 11 of 18 and Coomes has thrown out 1 of 3.
We need some more data points on Coomes and/or Romero.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:55 am to GeismarGeauxer
Here are some relevant catcher data points on Pap, though not related to stolen bases:
Capielano, S advanced to third on a wild pitch.
Dean. D. doubled to right center, RBI (3-2); Capielano, S scored.
Dean. D. advanced to third on a wild pitch.
Dean. D. scored on a wild pitch.
Those are not cherry picked, those are copied and pasted from the game log.
Capielano, S advanced to third on a wild pitch.
Dean. D. doubled to right center, RBI (3-2); Capielano, S scored.
Dean. D. advanced to third on a wild pitch.
Dean. D. scored on a wild pitch.
Those are not cherry picked, those are copied and pasted from the game log.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:58 am to GeismarGeauxer
Pap needs to be welcomed to the bench.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:06 am to ProjectP2294
I didn't see the game, but they were all scored as WP as opposed to Passed Balls, so it looks like those are on the pitcher.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:13 am to ProjectP2294
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relevant catcher data points
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a wild pitch.
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on a wild pitch.
quote:So do we consider passed balls to be "relevant pitcher data points"?
a wild pitch.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:13 am to southernelite
Any ball in the dirt that gets away goes on the pitcher, even pitches that are called there...
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:17 am to LSURussian
I think we can look at each pitch individually because I think we all understand that a wild pitch isn't always just on the pitcher. Some balls in the dirt are more "blockable" than others with some pitches even meant to be in the dirt. We can't know what was called, but we can see that some pitches could/should be handled better.
More specifically about Projects post, 2 of those 3 should have been blocked IMO. Calling them "catcher" data points was incorrect but not totally misleading.
More specifically about Projects post, 2 of those 3 should have been blocked IMO. Calling them "catcher" data points was incorrect but not totally misleading.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:24 am to ProjectP2294
Who's got the video?
Would like another look to see if these were truly WP's or PB's.
Would like another look to see if these were truly WP's or PB's.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:26 am to ell_13
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some pitches even meant to be in the dirt.
Guys who can't find the strike zone should never be called on to intentionally throw one in the dirt.
Aaron Nola - yes
Hunter Kiel - never
If they were called, shame on Dunn.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:27 am to ell_13
Yeah, I'm in the middle of logging leverage index stuff, so I have the box score and game log up in front of me, so I just copied and pasted.
But regardless of how they were scored, if you saw the sequence, Pap looked lost. While it's not apparent from what I posted previously, I'm certainly not putting all the blame on him. That should be shared between Pap, Kiel, and Dunn. But I think Pap's offensive woes are creeping into his defensive performance.
But regardless of how they were scored, if you saw the sequence, Pap looked lost. While it's not apparent from what I posted previously, I'm certainly not putting all the blame on him. That should be shared between Pap, Kiel, and Dunn. But I think Pap's offensive woes are creeping into his defensive performance.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:29 am to southernelite
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I didn't see the game, but they were all scored as WP as opposed to Passed Balls, so it looks like those are on the pitcher.
Because they were in the dirt. They weren't grossly bad pitches imo. Definitely pitches you would expect an LSU catcher to block.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:36 am to JJ27
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Because they were in the dirt. They weren't grossly bad pitches imo. Definitely pitches you would expect an LSU catcher to block.
Especially for a guy that is hitting right at the Mendoza line and is in for defense.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:49 am to GeismarGeauxer
quote:I'm much more concerned about Kramer Robertson's defense now.
Especially for a guy that is hitting right at the Mendoza line and is in for defense.
He was charged with two errors last night and would have had three more if Slaughter had not saved him with scoops and tagging a runner after being pulled off the bag by one of KR's throws.
I hope KR is not hiding an injury to his arm or shoulder.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:53 am to 81Tiger
quote:Throwing a curve in the dirt is pretty standard. A good curve that starts out as a strike is going to bounce maybe half the time.
Guys who can't find the strike zone should never be called on to intentionally throw one in the dirt.
Aaron Nola - yes
Hunter Kiel - never
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:54 am to LSURussian
quote:I brushed it off the first time you brought it up, but I agree now. It's a concern.
I'm much more concerned about Kramer Robertson's defense now.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:58 am to ell_13
quote:All 3 of Kiel's wild pitches last night were fast balls hitting the dirt a foot or so in front of the plate. One of them hit almost 2 feet in front of and a foot outside the plate.
Throwing a curve in the dirt is pretty standard.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:03 am to ell_13
quote:I hold my breath every time a ground ball is hit towards Kramer. It seems his errors are always on his throws, not on his fielding the ball. Either he's nursing a sore arm/shoulder or his confidence is shot and it's a mental thing, or a little of both.
I brushed it off the first time you brought it up, but I agree now. It's a concern.
Like TV play-by-play announcer Skip Carey used to say about the Braves' Bob Horner when a ball was hit towards Horner at third base, "Here comes another adventure....."
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